[spireitematt]

Found this on Youtube from 1985. It's weird how we are still having the same discussions and debates.

[spireitematt]

[video=youtube]http:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xIpjA6dol8//[/video]

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Just been reading back this thread and its weird how two of the predications I made after Brexit came true. I said there would be another General Election and I also said it would be more likely a coalition.

[Devongone]

Don't tell people Matt. They'll put you in a tank with an octopus.

[spireitematt]

Don't tell people Matt. They'll put you in a tank with an octopus.

Shame I can't predict football results the same way.

[bluepooch]

So after another terrorist attack they hold a COBRA meeting to sort it out .....except they never do .
The only problem with Centre left, Centre right and Liberals is that nothing ever gets done !.They just drift along tolerating and trying not to offend and encouraging vigils and prayers .

[St Charles Owl]

So after another terrorist attack they hold a COBRA meeting to sort it out .....except they never do .
The only problem with Centre left, Centre right and Liberals is that nothing ever gets done !.They just drift along tolerating and trying not to offend and encouraging vigils and prayers .

Out of curiosity, what would you like to see happen?? I'm not sure there is a lot they can do to stop lone wolf attacks, although when they do they don't get many headlines like a successful attack gets.

[bluepooch]

We should deport or jail all suspected terrorists . Drastic action is needed or these attacks will become part of the norm .Trump is looked upon as a madman but his travel ban on certain countries was a good thing .Spend more money on border controls .Slow down Globalization and stop thinking different races and religions can integrate in perfect harmony, they cant ,especially, dare I say it ,the 'religion of peace '.How can anyone possibly think the United States or Europe can be a good thing ?.If this happens all the European counties will be unrecognisable as early as 10 years time .I might be old fashioned but I dont want my country to be full of people who dont even speak English,who walk round in robes like it is the middle ages .
Stop being so tolerant of other religions and races who dont even like us, just because we think it is the politically correct thing to do .
This is what is wrong with this country .

[Devongone]

Oh dear Pooch, how can you be so optimistic about Chesterfield and so pessimistic about the world?

I think perhaps you should try to define US. I think US is a myth. There are so many things that divide and differentiate between US the term becomes meaningless. You either include everyone who is on your side at that particular moment or exclude everyone but yourself.

We talk about Islamic terror ...... Its biggest victims by a huge margin in terms of religion are Muslim.

We talk about Iraq for instance as though we understand it, but Shia and Sunni violently oppose each other, the Kurds want a separate state and once you start looking there are lots of other religions and sects and actual cultures ........ and they all think they are US too.

The trouble with choosing intolerance over tolerance is it ends in the concentration camp, it ends in G4S beating up and abusing detainees, it ends with black people being massively over-represented in the prison population and dying on the streets of America and Britain. I know you don't want that or think like that Pooch ...... but who are these people in robes? Is it the Rabbi, the faithful coming from a mosque, a Buddhist, or maybe the Archbishop of Canterbury, or a monk or a nun who is most medieval?

[bluepooch]

The problem is that if you stood two muslims side by side you could not tell who is the peaceful one and who is the terrorist so what do you do ? i just dont like the religion and how it can be interpreted .It is a dangerous ideology and we tolerate and encourage it at the expense of hundreds of innocent people dying or maimed in this country.

[Devongone]

Buddhists are cleansing Muslims in Myanmar, Hindus are killing Muslims in India, the Chinese attack their own Muslim population .........