[spireitematt]

Whilst ever Corbyn is in charge Labour will be a wreck. Having first class numpties like Diane Abbott supporting and backing him to the hilt will just give him more and more encouragement to stay on. Unless he steps down labour will be decimated at any election.
Madame May will wipe the floor with him.

I don't think Labour would win an election with or without Corbyn. Wouldn't surprise me if its another coalition government in the next election.

[bluepooch]

If there was an election now I honestly do not know who I would vote for.I have never voted Tory on principle and I'm sick of centrist politics so definitely would not vote Lib Dems.As for UKIP ,it still has an air of Racist stigma and will always attract the extreme right wing xxxx types.
That leaves my party Labour who I strongly disagree with over their immigration policy or should I say lack of it ,which really leaves me hoping, like Matt says, that there is a new party forms from the fall out of Brexit .

[Dancingwilldoit]

Whilst ever Corbyn is in charge Labour will be a wreck. Having first class numpties like Diane Abbott supporting and backing him to the hilt will just give him more and more encouragement to stay on. Unless he steps down labour will be decimated at any election.
Madame May will wipe the floor with him.

I don't think Labour would win an election with or without Corbyn. Wouldn't surprise me if its another coalition government in the next election.

Problem is Matt whilst Labour is on its knees paddling up shit creek, the Tories by some miraculous bit of luck seem to have landed themselves a leader who might actually show the others how it should be done. She's just getting on with it. No bullshit, no lies no timewasting.
She might not agree with Auld Trumpy but she knows bloody well that without the EU we need somebody else to trade with. Its alright all the civil servants, council employees, teachers etc demonstrating against a state visit but the facts of life are that as a country we need trade. They will be still in a job no matter what happens but those of us in the real world need to see where we go next as a country. Love or loathe Trump he is only doing exactly what he said he would do before he was elected - how refreshing is that in a politician?
Like Ive said before I aint no Tory but so far I am impressed.

[bluepooch]

Couldn't agree more Dancing both re Trump and May.
The tv and media were getting all excited about this online petition where 1.7 million signed in protest at Trumps visit but just to put these petitions into perspective the one created when Jeremy Clarkson was sacked by the beeb reached about a million .
They are basically insignificant .

[Dancingwilldoit]

Well I hope all you out voters are happy.
As a result of your voting we have now ended up with our European friends rationing the supply of vegetables and Salad stuff to the UK.
Tesco's have had to do the unthinkable and have had to ration the number of Iceberg lettuce any customer can buy on a visit to 3.
I really don't know how things have come to this, I wont be able to have lettuce on my breakfast cereal or in my coffee anymore. It stinks. Its all the fault of you brexit voters. If you had voted to stay in I would have been able to buy my usual 6 Iceberg Lettuce a day and life would have been rosy. Now I just don't know what the hell is going to happen. I cant even turn to Spinach, you cant buy it for love nor money. My doctor says I need 5 a day - Tescos will only let me have 3, how long must we suffer.

[spireitematt]

Whilst ever Corbyn is in charge Labour will be a wreck. Having first class numpties like Diane Abbott supporting and backing him to the hilt will just give him more and more encouragement to stay on. Unless he steps down labour will be decimated at any election.
Madame May will wipe the floor with him.

I don't think Labour would win an election with or without Corbyn. Wouldn't surprise me if its another coalition government in the next election.

Problem is Matt whilst Labour is on its knees paddling up shit creek, the Tories by some miraculous bit of luck seem to have landed themselves a leader who might actually show the others how it should be done. She's just getting on with it. No bullshit, no lies no timewasting.
She might not agree with Auld Trumpy but she knows bloody well that without the EU we need somebody else to trade with. Its alright all the civil servants, council employees, teachers etc demonstrating against a state visit but the facts of life are that as a country we need trade. They will be still in a job no matter what happens but those of us in the real world need to see where we go next as a country. Love or loathe Trump he is only doing exactly what he said he would do before he was elected - how refreshing is that in a politician?  
Like Ive said before I aint no Tory but so far I am impressed.

Never thought I would say this but I feel sorry for May because she's been dropped in this situation and is trying her best to make the best of a bad situation.

If we stopped Trump for coming then we're no better. Yes we do need trade we need to trade with everyone and try and get along with everyone. The way I see it if the EU had remained as the common market based solely on trade we wouldn't have this problem but because they evolved into a political union surely someone must have seen problems in the future of what would happen but then again there so hellbent on creating a United States of Europe that they probably didn't seem to care.

[Devongone]

May was right to invite Trump. The Queen has gold coaches and stuff; he'll love it. The Duke of Edinburgh'll say something embarrassing and of course Charles will have to be abroad dealing with climate change and conveniently disregarding the human rights violations of his own wealthy friends in the middle east, but we'll get through it.

Personally I think WE should agree to take all Obama's Nauru refugees to sort out the row between America and Australia and make two friends for life and commit a humanitarian act in one David-Blaine style spectacular denouement.

Eventually someone will wake up to the idea that Mrs May has no option other than a hard Brexit, because that is all there is and ever was. Her white paper, the deal, even the negotiations themselves are all essentially irrelevant because once Article 50 is triggered there is two years in which to reach a deal. Despite its much-vaunted trained negotiators the EU has no history of reaching any kind of deal within that time-span. So we'll leave without a deal, but trade will still exist and they will continue to need us as much or more than we need them. And we'll be free to strike deals elsewhere, instead of having to cajole and drag 27 other countries along with us whose fondest wish seems to be to tie any potential partner into their own peculiar brand of bureaucracy.

Everything we were told by Cameron, Osborne, The Bank Of England, that corrupt Legard woman from the European Central Bank, lovely President Obama, Nick tuition fee Clegg and loads of others is proving to be bollocks. The only thing Mr Corbyn did wrong was to ditch his forty-year opposition to the EU in order to elastoplast over the suppurating scab of a party composed of political enemies who cannot help but infect one another and make of the party's lifeblood only black pudding. End of rant.

[spireitematt]

Edward Heath took us into the Common market in 1973 without asking the British public in a referendum and Harold Wilson gave the British public a referendum in 1975 2 years after being in the Common market on whenever we should stay in or not. Now I thought the rules were any potential member has to ask there citizens before they join the Common market/EU.

So does it mean we were took in illegally?

[Dancingwilldoit]

Dunno Matt but one thing I do know is that Scotish "I want another referendum" woman is really getting on my tits. She's never off the bloody "English" news.

To put it into perspective, they have a referendum and vote to stay as a member of the UK. Then the UK as a whole votes to leave the EU. Now even though I don't agree with it I accept majority rule and that's it, get on with it. But oh no not the Surgeon. She wants another referendum so she can make the final cut. Why do we give her news time this side of the border? Keep it over the border, take her bloody passport away and re build Hadrians Wall.
If they do have another referendum it should be conditional that all ex pat Scots get a vote and if the vote goes the way she wants than all the Scots living in the remainder of the UK should be sent packing back home.

Now just think for a minute how much better off we would all be. No.1 we get a new manager, No.2 No more Ken bloody Bruce on Radio 2, No.3 No more Scottish Politicians hogging every conceivable minute of TV political slots as well James bloody Noccchhhtie and especially Alex the squirming Salmon . This list is just endless. Just think how peaceful the bars and pubs would be without loud mouthed Scotsmen ruling the roost. Aaahh just imagine........

[Devongone]

Well if the Scots have a referendum and vote to leave the UK, then surely the UK will no longer exist, so nor will the passport? If Scotland is finally then allowed into the EU all the Scottish will become subject to whatever deal Nuts In May has negotipatled as regards EU nationals and fruit pickers marooned here with a questionable right to remain.

So it'll be goodbye Kirsty Wark and we could also have a proper weather forecast instead of concentrating on the blizzard at the top of a Cairngorm.

Oh blimey we never have to hear another lone piper caterwauling on battlements. On the other hand where are we going to put the Queen, and who's goin' to catch their salmon and shoot their deer for them? And what will they do with all the old-Etonian aristocracy littered around the Highlands? Will we have to send in the SAS? How will a Scottish Entebbe go down in Brussels?

There's bound to be a European war. No trade deal negotiated with the EU and Scotland witholding its Whisky. A Scotsman, an Englishman and a drink that's always been enough reason for a fight.