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WBA vs Leicester - "Astle Day" Match Thread
(13-04-2015, 13:20)valpayne Wrote: I did say we wouldn't beat leicester and or the teams we expect to. Two reasons for this 1 ex baggie management Nigel Pearson back to haunt us as all ex baggies seem to do 2 They were always going to be hungrier than us in their position they've nothing to lose. That said its unforgivable to lose this most important memorable occasion game but thats Albion I suppose. I've lived with it for 40 years. I was to P****d off to say anything Saturday I'm just hoping that the other half of my prediction comes true which was we will get results where we least expect to because although everyone (footy fans not baggies) around me says we'e safe I'm glass half empty right now Sad

You may be correct....

Crystal Palace V West Brom
West Brom V Liverpool
Man Utd V West Brom
Newcastle V West Brom
West Brom V Chelsea
Arsenal V West Brom

...all games where Tiny Cluelis could pick up points.... Whistle
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(13-04-2015, 13:20)valpayne Wrote: I did say we wouldn't beat leicester and or the teams we expect to. Two reasons for this 1 ex baggie management Nigel Pearson back to haunt us as all ex baggies seem to do 2 They were always going to be hungrier than us in their position they've nothing to lose. That said its unforgivable to lose this most important memorable occasion game but thats Albion I suppose. I've lived with it for 40 years. I was to P****d off to say anything Saturday I'm just hoping that the other half of my prediction comes true which was we will get results where we least expect to because although everyone (footy fans not baggies) around me says we'e safe I'm glass half empty right now Sad


My glass has a bloody hole in it!
Bonum vinum laetificat cor hominis.
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I've just about calmed down enough to post something. Pathetic performance by both the players and the manager - we're being overrun in midfield with full backs being pushed forward to double up on Brunt and Dawson so what do you do? Yes take off a midfielder, go very narrow and bring on another centre half - pure genius. I can only hope that there are 3 sides that don't get to 33 points or we're going down. Pulis needs 2 points to improve on Irvine's dreadful record - I don't think he'll do it. Under Irvine we were never in the bottom 3 - Pulis looks likely to manage this feat.
My major fear for this season used to be getting relegated - now it's getting relegated with Pulis still in charge and another season without pace, width ,creativity and, now it seems, bottle.
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It's probably safe to say that Pulis won't be 'Manager of the Year 2014/15'..... Sad
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REPORT: Albion Under-18s thrashed Villa 5-1 on Saturday in the Barclays U18 Premier League elite group, thanks to goals from Joe Ward (2), Tahvon Campbell, Samir Nabi and Andre Wright. Click below for further details ‪#‎wba‬

At least the kids know how to celebrate Astle Day. DD Angel Angel
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Ubique.
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It's unfortunate that our slump has turned into an 'I told you so debate' from those that didn't
support Pulis from the off.

I believe that TP inherited a team destined for relegation and if he keeps us up, he's done a
good job. If we go down however, he's failed.

He will be judged at the end of the season.

There's no doubt that the wins against Southampton (who had come off the back of 5 away wins
on the bounce), Swansea, Stoke (who always beat us at our place) and West Ham were
impressive. Even more so when you consider the Burnley win was the only time we'd beaten a
team at home that were not down to 10 men in well over a year.

Unfortunately now we're having a bit of a slump, those who were slagging Pulis off when we
were winning want to show their elitism by telling everyone that said Pulis has improved things
that 'I told you so'.

It's fairly obvious that Pulis made a mistake on Saturday. If you bring a centre half on at 2-1
up and lose 3-2, the result speaks for itself.

The guy has done some good and some bad but the proof of the pudding will come on May 24th.
If we stay up with this aged, dross, unbalanced squad then i'll praise him. If not, then he's
failed along with the mugs who have assembled this p*ss poor bunch of players over the last
couple of years.
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Sorry Jeff - that was a right royal ball sup.

Work your magic upstairs and sort us out so we can move on
I can go a step higher than Aston Villa
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(13-04-2015, 18:59)Slick_Footwork Wrote: It's unfortunate that our slump has turned into an 'I told you so debate' from those that didn't
support Pulis from the off.

I believe that TP inherited a team destined for relegation and if he keeps us up, he's done a
good job. If we go down however, he's failed.

He will be judged at the end of the season.

There's no doubt that the wins against Southampton (who had come off the back of 5 away wins
on the bounce), Swansea, Stoke (who always beat us at our place) and West Ham were
impressive. Even more so when you consider the Burnley win was the only time we'd beaten a
team at home that were not down to 10 men in well over a year.

Unfortunately now we're having a bit of a slump, those who were slagging Pulis off when we
were winning want to show their elitism by telling everyone that said Pulis has improved things
that 'I told you so'.

It's fairly obvious that Pulis made a mistake on Saturday. If you bring a centre half on at 2-1
up and lose 3-2, the result speaks for itself.

The guy has done some good and some bad but the proof of the pudding will come on May 24th.
If we stay up with this aged, dross, unbalanced squad then i'll praise him. If not, then he's
failed along with the mugs who have assembled this p*ss poor bunch of players over the last
couple of years.

I'm pretty sure the "elite" were being just guarded after Pulis' first couple of months.
I can remember posting that he was exactly right for the job, and I didn't mind a bit of hoofball if it meant staying up and having a re-shape in the summer.
People were calling him The Messiah for parking the bus and getting draws at Burnley and Everton, but I can remember pointing out that we needed a few wins (not draws) and going to those places without ambition would come back and haunt us, because we'd be lucky to get 2 pts out of the final 5 games.
There were only 2 or 3 infidels, and none are gloating. All that's happened is that there are some very angry fans right now. Those 2 defeats to the Villa were pretty bloody hard to take: we were outfought and outthought by a team on their knees who doubled their goalscoring achievements of the previous 3 months in 2 games. But we all stuck right behind Pulis, saying what a feat it was to actually stay up this season. Well, no one's saying that now!
If you're referring to me - although I was only ever critical for underestimating the task ahead - I seriously hope you repeat that criticism at the end of the season when we've escaped the drop - I'll be glad to be proved wrong. I was furious on Saturday evening, even more so than the Villa and QPR games, because I'm starting to believe he's a 1-trick pony. There's a rumour going round that he's made an enquiry after Rory Delap, but I can't believe that - I don't think even he can throw back to his goalie from the 1/2 way line.
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In the 1st half of the season, when AI was struggling, most of this place was up-in-arms, because apparently Irvine could not get results from a 'top half squad' that was 'the best we have had in living memory' including players that have scored in the CL. (If I could be arsed, I would dig out the relevant threads)

Fast-forward a few months and, despite re-inforcements in Jan, we have an aged, dross and unbalanced squad of spineless no-hopers that arn't fit to wear the shirt.

I give up. I really do.... Doh
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(14-04-2015, 14:14)tidy Wrote: In the 1st half of the season, when AI was struggling, most of this place was up-in-arms, because apparently Irvine could not get results from a 'top half squad' that was 'the best we have had in living memory' including players that have scored in the CL. (If I could be arsed, I would dig out the relevant threads)

Fast-forward a few months and, despite re-inforcements in Jan, we have an aged, dross and unbalanced squad of spineless no-hopers that arn't fit to wear the shirt.

I give up. I really do.... Doh

What reinforcements in Jan?

We signed McManaman and Fletcher.

Blanco, Dorrans, Samaras and Varela were all shown the door, while Mulumbu was out at the AFCON.

From what I can see, we're weaker.

Samaras and Varela IMO were 2 of our better players, players who actually had pedigree at a higher
level and could score in top competitions. No idea why they were released, Varela was our best
player when he played, including MOTM performance against Villa at home. Neither of these players were
replaced at all.

Pulis has come in and had some good results and some bad. But IMO, we've been let down badly by the
club. Rubbish signings for the past 2 years, many past their best or cheap options, and the one big
money is IMO, a Championship player. Some of our better players released for reasons that we can
only speculate about (attitude or wages), but IMO, this squad looks weaker than the first half of the
season. Varela alone was a dramatic improvement on anything we have now.
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