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The Owls v Ipswich SBC Match Thread
Thank god for the teams below us!!! We can't buy a win at the moment but yet we aren't any closer to the relegation spots once again.

Brum, Burton, Dingles, Hull and Sunderland all lose, Reading and Bolton are drawing still. Couldn't ask for a better set of other results!!!!
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I didn’t see or hear the game. I think Jos could walk yet. I hoped he would be able to turn things but it’s not happening. It’s a shambolic situation at the club at the minute and I don’t think he knew what he was getting himself in too. It’s madness that he wasn’t able to bring in one or two players on loan. Every player should be up for sale now. No contracts renewed apart from the young fellas. The problem with a change of manager is we will end up with bullen again or another unknown out of work foreign manager.
If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, you need a team....
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I would stick with Jos until the end of the season at least. I still think he has the pedigree to rebuild us and have us challenging again in a couple of seasons but he needs to be given free reign to get rid of whoever he wants and be allowed to bring in the youth and a few decent transfers as well. At the moment he is maybe tinkering too much with the team but then again with this bunch who knows what you will get each week!! I am surprised he hasn't gone back to 3 CHs as we looked a lot better at the back but maybe the lack of any quality for the wingback positions is why he has moved away from it.
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McClaren doesn’t look like that bad of an appointment now does he, ffs !! Wouldn’t of minded Monk at least he knows the league and has something to prove but that’s gone now. Who is out there that would come in for the remaining games ?

I have no problem with Jos staying but I am finding it difficult to find any positives from his reign. Ok he brought in young players, but that was more down to he had no choice.
If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, you need a team....
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IMRES NO BULLSHIT MATCH RATINGS

WILDSMITH ...4Made one fantastic save and thats yer lot! dropped a clanger in the freekick for Towns winner by not setting a proper defence up and was caught in the middle of his goal 3yards of his line Doh its a clanger a game from him and if Jos doesnt drop him now i dont see how we are going to keep a clean sheet anymore Doh

LEES...5Had a good first half followed by a terrible second half Doh was at fault for the first Town goal ball watching and Loovens just made him more nervous as the game went on and he found himself boxed off with no outlets to move the ball forward too

LOOVENS...3 Had an ok first half due to the fact that Ipswich didnt have more than one venture into our box Whistle and in the second half his presence just caused panic amongst all the back line the free kick was his fault as Fox had to step in when he couldnt get there and at times it was just embarrasing how easy he got skinned again like Wildsmith Jos keeps picking him and he keeps letting us all down Angry

FOX...6Suprisingly he had a good game ? and was hampered all the way through the second half covering both his position and Loovens Doh played much better at Left center back than wingback although he still doesnt give me any confidence in the future



Summary of the defence which was just a sole 3 at the back for most of the game due to the fact Ipswich only attacked us 3 times if that Whistle and it reads play loovens and we will lose 100% nailed on !! i dont think weve won a game when hes played ? Dawson has to be given the number one jersey aswell because he commands his defence better wildsmith is completley lost at times Doh



DOGSHIT ...2Thats his worst display at wingback to date !! he is just awfull on at least 3 occasiones he stuck his head down and crossed or past the ball without even looking who he was passing it too ?? Joao was crying out for a shot on goal and he ran like a headless chicken to the line and lost possesion the only saving grace for him today was he didnt have to defend Doh Jos keeps picking him and this is what its all about Angry

JONES...5Hiding most of the game thank god Whistle but he sent Joao a nice ball for the goal Thumb up and didnt xxxx up that much today he was playing a more central midfield role instead of the suicidel protecting the back 3 and he looked better for it . although hes still dogshit Whistle

BUTTERFIELD...7 MOM That was painfull writing that but he was he set Bob 2 up on a plate ! he stoped back passing and got stuck in more Thumb up like Jones he was played in a different more attacking vision of Jos and it worked out well for him ! still if he never puts a shirt on again ill be much more happier Whistle

REACH...6He gave his all ill give him that you can see he is concerned ! and he gave us that turn of pace which turned defence to attack sharpish !! but his shooting passing and controll at times was pure Dogshit Thumb down but i think the lad is knackered hes been asked to just about every game since Jos took over and although we will miss him on saturday i think if we dont rest him soon he will burnt out and probably go to the Vortex like the rest !

BOYD...4Its just Criminal that he plays in a wednesday shirt Angry hes past it like Loovens and scared to shoot at goal ffs Angry like saturday he had a glorious chance to smash one in the top or bottom corner and he smashed it into the legs of the defender Doh why ?? because his legs have gone !! forget the first hour like with Hooper !! this wankers shot after 10 minutes ffs Doh Jos keeps picking him and thats what you get jos Whistle his 4 rating comes from he defended ok without the ball he is the master of jockying !!

Summary of the midfield and it was much better today when it decided that it could make 5 yard passes and run at the defenders ! it took 15 minutes to do but they got there in the end and there were at least 4 chances 2 on a plate set up so not all doom and gloom ! Bannan will be striaght back in the team saturday or on the bench if Jos is as easy to read has he has been so far Whistle will we benifit im not sure ? we definatley need Clares pace to give Reach a breather thats for sure Thumb up

BOB...6Blasted a ball 4 yards out thats all he could do and the keeper somehow saved it Doh went striaght through and missed a sitter Doh but he won balls held the ball up well and battled all the 90 minutes to the very end ! the ref was very harsh on him all the game aswell but he still rolled his sleaves up and tried his bollocks of for the shirt Thumb up he might never score again and might be as shit as he was against Bristol the next game ! Bob is Bob simple hes honest shit and at times Ronaldo and at other times Colin west Whistle with the options weve got i think he has to start the next game at least Doh

RHODES... 1 DOGSHIT MOM Kicked the ball once in 45 minutes didnt give Bob or the Midfield dogshit any options whatsoever as he was easily manmarked by the Town defence Doh to slow not enough inteligence couldnt hold not one ball up and couldnt move into positions were he might have been and outlet Doh waste of time dont play him ever again hes shot hes been sussed hes francis jeffers will jonk or that wanker from Cardiff who i cant even remember his name he was that good Whistle sell asap for anything Doh

JOAO...6We looked better when he came on he gave the midfield an outlet and they obliged by giving him a shot at goal which he scored to a plom !! could have had a second if only hed followed the whistle and not his thoughts Doh hes the best striker we have fit at the minute by a country mile and will start the next game im sure and he will score if he plays with the same desire Thumb up


JOS...4Better than staurdays show but it was hardly hard not to be Whistle played a more attacking midfield although his slow forwards nulified this completley he keeps picking Loovens wildsmith Palmer and the likes and they keep letting him down ! i thought he was suppose to be ruthless Doh hes a big teddy bear and i said this after the Swansea game if he doesnt make an example quick of one off the dogshits then he will keep getting the same resposnse Doh i understand we are short but Abdi was on the bench and anybody is better than Loovens or palmer ffs ? where is Neilson ?? did he comment on his crap tash or something ?? were is Ogrady ?? wheres Hirst ?? whats happening hes picking players on past names and not players on the current day situation like he said he would when he came Angry another who has his favourites and will play them untill the club is xxxx ruined Angry go now ffs and lets start again Angry
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(07-03-2018, 00:12)Towinjustonce Wrote: McClaren doesn’t look like that bad of an appointment now does he, ffs !! Wouldn’t of minded Monk at least he knows the league and has something to prove but that’s gone now. Who is out there that would come in for the remaining games ?

I have no problem with Jos staying but I am finding it difficult to find any positives from his reign. Ok he brought in young players, but that was more down to he had no choice.

To be fair most of what he has done has been down to having very few options and very little choice!! We get 3 CHs playing ok and down goes Loovens and Thorniley, Pudil gets suspended for being sent off and Venancio goes through a bad spell!!! Now he has Lees back I think he needs to bring in Venancio and Thorniley either side of him and go back to a back 3.
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i think Larry may would be a better option than loovens !!
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I just hope some of the 'better' players are available soon to help with getting some points in the run in. We need to relegate Rhodes to the the U 23 team and let him try get some scoring confidence back or spend training on playing to his past strengths as a poacher in the 6 yard box.
This is the most disappointing season I can remember since back in the 70's.

TBH though Ipswich looked pretty awful as well and they didn't have a full first team and more out injured.

Palmer had definitely gotten worse rather than better with time and Jones must have grown up with Ray Wilkins as his passing idol.

I'd have given Reach MOM for effort but as Imre said even he's looking knackered too by having to make up for all the slackers every game.
I could accept these losses better if everyone put in a full shift like they did against Villa but they're not and Jos seems too meek to shove a rocket up where it hurts with the ones who need it.
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dont worry everyone jos says van acken and hutch will be back soon so does this mean we will lose by more goals or what ? van larry acken and Bryan hutchinson ffs !! it doesnt matter who comes back into this wank !! we have lost the plot again and i cant see it getting fixed Doh

i just cant see jos working out hes going agianst all the brave good work he did when he first started !!i understand weve had more injuries and to rest players etc ! but hes rotating wrongly plain and simple hes picking the wrong players and going for the old boys club like carlos and the last shuvle of shit managers have all done Doh

Nielson ogrady stobbs clare and dawson have all been available since he came ! but he picks over them in loovens butterfcuk jones and boyd Doh yes they need time but wednesday also need to stay up Doh there all fit yes they will have a bad game form time to time but if they give there all then surely through playing everyweek it will benifit the results ? why will he be any different in the summer when all the dogshit comes back ? he will play the old boys club and stick with them untill they get him the xxxx sack Doh

hes lost his balls after 10 games he now only looks for the safest route ! sound familair Doh
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(07-03-2018, 03:24)Imre varadi Wrote: dont worry everyone jos says van acken and hutch will be back soon so does this mean we will lose by more goals or what ? van larry acken and Bryan hutchinson ffs !! it doesnt matter who comes back into this wank !! we have lost the plot again and i cant see it getting fixed  Doh

I think both of those should walk into the defence if we play 3 at the back, if not then Hutch will take over Jones place in the team in front of the back 4. Either way over the current team getting these two back will improve us defensively.
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