[hibeejim21]

Anyone who thinks the uks problems, re immigration and low wages is going to be solved by leaving the EU is just thick. And sorry those were the main reasons given.

If the hundreds of extra millions for the NHS a month turn up I might relent on that. But the **** have already admitted they lied on that score.

I know a lot of people who voted to leave, and very few used these issues as the main reason.  I said at the time, the problem with the EU and the Remain campaign was that they were pretty much unable to give any positive reasons why voters should have voted to remain and they spent an awful amount of air time refuting the claims being made by the other side, which in the end seemed to mean the leave campaigns message stayed at the forefront of peoples minds and the Remain campaigns true message got lost.

What were their reasons then SCO ? The polls showed the reasons I gave as being the main drive behind brexit.

I keep coming back to this,but even if the benefits of staying in the EU were not presented well then the alternative was based on a pack of lies.

Already the pound is down against just about everything,inflation is rising and manufacturers facing higher prices. Remember the UK is primarily a service industry these days and one heavily reliant on imports particularly food.

Rocky times ahead.

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Young people feel disillusioned with politics as they feel they are all the same and that nothing changes but look what Jeremy Corbyn has done he has got young people interested as he is interacting with them and he appeals to them as he's different and unorthodox and wants change but the establishment don't like that as they are scared and the PLP want rid of him. The reason why he's struggling is because the media, his own MPs have undermined him from day one instead of getting behind him properly and all working together and he can't be bought either.

Nope, the reason why he's struggling is because he's an incompetent fantasist who delivers platitudes instead of policies.  Which is also the reason why the PLP want rid of him, and why huge swathes of the public want rid of him, and why the Tory Party are dancing an ecstatic jig, hoping he stays put and continues exactly what he's currently doing.

I don't actually have a problem with a lot of corbyns policies,indeed in a lot of cases he has been proven right. More that he is just a really poor leader,orator and organiser.

The labour party is done. Its core vote is now split,and middle England has never really voted for it for it anyway. No matter who is in charge in 2020 it will face wipe out unless the tories spectacularly xxxx it up.