30-06-2016, 18:38
(30-06-2016, 17:04)Dancingwilldoit Wrote: Matt the country with the most growth in the last 2 years is not the UK it was Ireland. Their currency is the euro so how does that fit your argument. The whole of Europe including us have suffered austerity because everybody set their stall out for sustained growth in China - guess what, it didn't happen.
At least the EU countries will get a bail out. What will we get to help us pay the £43 billion debt we currently fund by borrowing from the international markets. That's only the interest by the way. The total debt is more than £1.5 trillion.
Our credit rating has dropped, borrowing will be more expensive so where does that extra unaccounted for money come from? The answer will be less public spending. That knocks on to everybody and will mean more taxes, more austerity more unrest.
We can all argue until we are blue in the face but I run my own business and am talking to other business people daily and they are all saying the same thing - cancelled orders, delivery requirements put back, projects shelved etc etc. It might not be the end of the world for you but it will be for everybody else if we end up with an extra 1 million unemployed.
So what exactly has the out vote achieved apart from making Blue and Dev happy. I don't understand why you say you have now changed your mind. The truth will never come out of a politicians mouth so you cant blame them for the smoke and mirrors. They lie - fact, but its up to us to find a way through all the crap they spout and come to a rational decision. Unfortunately some people believed what they were told which is why we ended up with Brexit. Most people I have spoken to who voted out now seem to regret that decision but we cant turn the clock back and the rest of us have to live with the consequences.
This is why I've changed my mind. Only yesterday they were talking about an EU army.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...omies.html
https://www.rt.com/news/348615-france-ge...eu-reform/
http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/6848...e-Brussels
The last 4 years for myself and my age group have not been great and people I've been speaking to all said we can't see a future for ourselves unless something changes. The only people who want to stay in the EU are students, businesses and big banks. I can understand why you want to stay and why many other businesses want to stay and I wish you well and hope you survive and manage to get through this. But nothing is set in stone this is just an advisory referendum its not legally binding so MPs can vote this down if they want to if they feel it will put the country in economic turmoil. The longer article 50 isn't triggered the more unlikely it looks like we won't be leaving and I honestly can't see the MPs putting it through. The Lib Dems, majority of Labour and Tories want to stay.
I would rather have a Europe where its based solely on trade and not one on laws, rules and regulations.
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