[BaggieSteve]

All par for the course, sadly.  I've defended Roy a lot over the last four years because he was working with a team in transition, but this time the buck had to stop with him.  A crop of young, enthusiastic, undoubtedly talented attacking players ended up looking like absolute plodders for all except the second forty-five minutes against Wales.

Oh, and how Joe Hart continues to keep that number one shirt is beyond me, because the likes of Scott Carson and Rob Green became absolute footballing lepers after just one mistake in goal for England.  Hart's doing them in every sodding match and is still the golden boy!

Totally agree with your comments on Joe Hart; rarely comes for crosses and, when he does, he flaps at them. Does not command his area so his only strength, apart from his ability take a drink after every cock up, was shot stopping. That's now disappeared so time to go. Makes Scott Carson look like Gordon Banks.