28-06-2016, 13:48
Dancing - not one EU country or leader has come in and said don't go, we'd like you to stay or anything like it. They don't dislike the Scots, but they never really wanted the English in the EU and will be glad to carry our cases to the door. Their only worry is the effect our leaving might have. They'd like our money if only we could just stay home and out of their hair. They even want to tell us when to go even though Article 50 clearly puts the timing in our hands.
Spanish people under 30 have more chance of a job in Britain than their own country. Their fastest growing party is Podemos - anti the austerity imposed by the EU. The Spanish Government, not the people want the EU. As to Gibraltar it's just a hostage, its people have to want the EU, how else can such a colonial outpost of Britishness survive?
Italy is a financial basket case, only surviving in the euro on the conditional goodwill of the French and Germans. Portugal went ttips-up ages ago, Greece is a whipping boy, Belgium's gift-wrapping terrorists with its chocolates .......... France would ditch its leader tomorrow except it is scared his replacement would have a fascist father ........ Combined they've spent seven whole years trying unsuccessfully to negotiate a trade deal with a friendly United States, part of which would have meant the implementation of Ttip which would have led to American drug companies bankrupting our Health Service.
Of course the money men will still rule the world in or out of the EU, but wanting to be in a club that doesn't want or like you, because a rich elite is threatening to crash your currency just as it trashed the banks and the savings of thousands of innocent people a few years ago isn't close to the moral high ground. The referendum was called for political advantage by a posh boy who thought the voters were like the sheep on One Man and His Dog. I'm not in favour of referenda - there are lots of issues that if put to referenda would produce results we'd hate (there'd be capital punishment, maybe corporal, no gay rights, abortion might become next to impossible .....) But, if only by accident, the wisdom of crowds has to kick in sometime. This one the people got right, but I don't think most of them knew they'd have to have a kicking before they started to feel the benefits.
Voting Leave won't create a society or political system I want, or could support. Our idea of a coup is a few Labour MPs taking their ball in because no one is listening to them. We are small, creative, rather warlike little island bumbling into an unknown future. We'd have been that in or out of the EU, but this way we're doing our own bumbling.
Economists pretend their throwing of chicken bones equates to scientific study. It is a huge lie the media loves to digest and regurgitate for public consumption. It is not the science of insensible objects reacting upon one another to create an effect we can observe, which will create the same result every time. In Economics we, the people, are both cause and effect, more than that we are catalyst too. The result depends on what we choose to do and how we do it and the outcome may be different every single time.
We have gained a small freedom possibly totally to fcku up, or maybe even succeed. It is a very small thing. In the last few years we have made a major contribution to fkcuing up Iraq, Syria and Libya in the name of freedom, democracy, oil or whatever. We contributed to the immiseration of millions. Is the accusation of being a little englander hard to bear in this context? I'm not a little englander but I do want a very different country.
Spanish people under 30 have more chance of a job in Britain than their own country. Their fastest growing party is Podemos - anti the austerity imposed by the EU. The Spanish Government, not the people want the EU. As to Gibraltar it's just a hostage, its people have to want the EU, how else can such a colonial outpost of Britishness survive?
Italy is a financial basket case, only surviving in the euro on the conditional goodwill of the French and Germans. Portugal went ttips-up ages ago, Greece is a whipping boy, Belgium's gift-wrapping terrorists with its chocolates .......... France would ditch its leader tomorrow except it is scared his replacement would have a fascist father ........ Combined they've spent seven whole years trying unsuccessfully to negotiate a trade deal with a friendly United States, part of which would have meant the implementation of Ttip which would have led to American drug companies bankrupting our Health Service.
Of course the money men will still rule the world in or out of the EU, but wanting to be in a club that doesn't want or like you, because a rich elite is threatening to crash your currency just as it trashed the banks and the savings of thousands of innocent people a few years ago isn't close to the moral high ground. The referendum was called for political advantage by a posh boy who thought the voters were like the sheep on One Man and His Dog. I'm not in favour of referenda - there are lots of issues that if put to referenda would produce results we'd hate (there'd be capital punishment, maybe corporal, no gay rights, abortion might become next to impossible .....) But, if only by accident, the wisdom of crowds has to kick in sometime. This one the people got right, but I don't think most of them knew they'd have to have a kicking before they started to feel the benefits.
Voting Leave won't create a society or political system I want, or could support. Our idea of a coup is a few Labour MPs taking their ball in because no one is listening to them. We are small, creative, rather warlike little island bumbling into an unknown future. We'd have been that in or out of the EU, but this way we're doing our own bumbling.
Economists pretend their throwing of chicken bones equates to scientific study. It is a huge lie the media loves to digest and regurgitate for public consumption. It is not the science of insensible objects reacting upon one another to create an effect we can observe, which will create the same result every time. In Economics we, the people, are both cause and effect, more than that we are catalyst too. The result depends on what we choose to do and how we do it and the outcome may be different every single time.
We have gained a small freedom possibly totally to fcku up, or maybe even succeed. It is a very small thing. In the last few years we have made a major contribution to fkcuing up Iraq, Syria and Libya in the name of freedom, democracy, oil or whatever. We contributed to the immiseration of millions. Is the accusation of being a little englander hard to bear in this context? I'm not a little englander but I do want a very different country.