[Owlkev71]

Terrible performance but should we be surprised. We have been turning in terrible tournament performances since we started playing tournaments with the exception of 1966 with home advantage. Even with home advantage in 1996, we only won two matches out of five and one of those was against Scotland.

Hodgson got several things wrong but he is little better or worse than Capello, Sven, McLaren, Keegan et al. The system is such that whoever has the job, they are destined to fail. I am not bothered - tournaments just fill a gap between Wednesday seasons.

Hart - 2
Walker - 4
Cahill - 5
Smalling - 5
Rose - 3
Dier - 3
Rooney - 2
Alli - 3
Sterling - 4
Kane - 2
Sturridge - 4
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Wilshire - 3
Vardy - 4
Rashford - 7

Where did it go wrong?

It will always go wrong. Just accept that & we stop being disappointed.

IMO, Hodgson got a number of things wrong including:

1) He was bold taking so many young players & introduced players like Alli, Dier, Rashford, Barkley & Kane but he should have gone the whole way & committed to build around the youngsters rather than ageing players.

2) He needed to make a clean break from the losing mentality of the past. Serial international losers like Lampard, Gerrard, Terry, Ferdinand & Cole had moved on & maybe if Hodgson had cleared out the last few (Rooney, Milner) then maybe the freedom of expression showed by younger players might have flourished.

3) Joe Hart has been a top keeper until last season. There have been increasing questions asked about him throughout last season but Hodgson stuck loyally with him. That seems to be misplaced loyalty now when Forster has been outstanding.

4) Players that just miss out on a title invariably play poorly in tournaments that summer. Spurs managed to finish third in a two horse race yet Hodgson stuffed his squad with Spurs players. Dier had one good game while Walker & Rose had two good games. By last night, Walker & Rose looked lost, Dier & Alli couldn't pass a ball while Kane looked a shadow of a PL player. Maybe if Hodgson had stuffed the squad with winners, we would have done better.

5) There appeared to be no coherent strategy. We seemed to wing it from one match to the next. These tournaments are won by teams that pick players that are in form, build up momentum & go for it. Who would say that Cahill, Stones, Barkley, Sterling, Milner, Henderson or Wilshire were on form.

6) Taking players who were not proven fit. Sometimes you will gamble on a players fitness if they are Messsi or Ronaldo but you don't waste a space on an injured Wilshire or Henderson.

7) We lack a real leader on the pitch. Ideally we need a young CB who can command the team. No-one around atm.

Hodgson is gone & it doesn't really matter who comes in because they will fail as well. Let's just hope that whoever it is goes for it before they are sacked.

Blimey, Wednesday never had ratings that bad!