[madsteve]

like usual ms answers a question 4 hours after i leave !! but your still wrong about westwood as it was in his 6yard box !!! and lee did some great passes and runs ?

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quite frankly you bore me to death !!!

Keepers are taught not to come for those crosses because one touch & they are dead if they leave their line. If everyone misses it then they are vulnerable to a goal like Rotherham scored.

In the second eventuality, there are other players that can prevent the goal whereas if the keeper leaves his line then the flick is always a goal if on target. CC has said that Loovens should have prevented the goal so it is clear where he places blame.

The biggest points are:

1) We need to give away less free kicks in these areas.

2) We need to make better use of these situations ourselves.