[Tibby Baggie]

a)  Did we expect anything but 0 points vs Man City & Chelsea at home?
b) Did we not enjoy taking 6 points off both Stoke & Villa away?
c) Is the point gained at home vs Southampton not a good point, in hindsight since they took all 3 points at Stamford Bridge?
d) Likewise the point gained away at Watford. Seeing as Swansea who by all accounts play excellent passing football left Vicarage Road without a point for their efforts.


It's pretty obvious that we all don't like the brand of football being played, but some can see the bigger picture and with some 8 games played so far I will be expecting improvement in our play. As we all know that the players we have got are on the whole capable of playing some much better stuff, and we've only seen flashes of it so far. 

Hang on - you're being a bit generous:

a) NO. But during the course of both games there was just no intent to take the upper hand. Even relegated Clubs take points off the Top 4, if they have a go. We never gave it a go in either game until Terry was semt off, and if we'd drawn level Pulis would probably put another defender on.
b) Stoke was possibly as bad as Palace. Villa was good - but not THAT good.
c) Oh yeh. And Japan beat S.Africa, who beat Scotland, who beat S.Africa.
d) Watford was an appalling display whatever the result. And if we're hoping to stay in the Prem that was 2 points lost.

....and you've missed out the horrendous Post Vale and Norwich displays.
In my book, we've just played reasonably well against relegation-bound Villa, and for 1/2 hour against 10-man relegation-bound Chelsea.

We'll have to agree to disagree mate, as where you feel I'm being generous, I think you're being very harsh. 

I'm by no means saying I think we're playing well but we've got some good results whilst we've played poorly, and to use what is a pretty worn out football cliché, teams that grind out wins when they're playing poorly have much less to worry about imo.