29-09-2015, 22:08
(29-09-2015, 21:33)TheBaggieMan Wrote: I was totally and utterly against the appointment of Pulis from the first mention of his name and remain so today.
Living in the North Staffordshire Moorlands virtually all of my friends are Stoke City supporters and never has a Manager/Head Coach divided a clubs fan base as he did with Stoke City and still today, that division of pro and anti Pulis still exists. However, ask the question "Would you take him back?" and one gets a 100% resounding "No chance"
Pulis is now generating a similar huge division in our club with his bewildering tactics, his failure in the transfer market (which was very evident when with Stoke) and his bizarre team selection of square pegs in round holes.
Whilst Pulis was at Stoke presenting the boring hoofball we all despised him and his tactics. Being a results driven business, Irvine was justifiably sacked although I cannot accept it was a guaranteed 100% certainty we would have been relegated with him or Steve Clark or indeed Pepe Mel. Those who say we would have suffered the drop, must have a God given talent of seeing into the future.
Along comes the hated Pulis and all of a sudden those hypocrites who despised him and his footballing tactics became turncoats and Pulis was hailed as the Messiah and Saviour whereby, credit to the odd few, who could see the path of division we were treading.
In my opinion Pulis has been remarkably lucky in his management career - managing to survive at Stoke for so long before being sacked and benefiting from the inherited talent at Crystal Palace who were, in essence, Ian Holloway's team, that he abandoned in a display of disloyalty. People will say he has never been relegated and never will be - again remarkable God given foresight. He had never lost a game as Manager when leading 2-0 until last night. Well Mr Pulis fans, 'never' can bite you in the bum very easily.
Where do we go from here?
If I were JP I wouldn't trust Pulis with my money in the January transfer window anymore than I'd trust a Dingle - look at the players we maybe could have signed and what we ended up with the exception of Evans. By January, it may be too late unless he starts putting out a team of round pegs in round holes in the right positions and playing with pace, enthusiasm, skill and a determination to win.
I don't want to see my beloved West Brom who I have supported for over 50 years threatened with relegation each year or settling for a mid/low table finish - I want to see us playing attractive attacking football challenging for a top eight finish or maybe higher rather than the dross we are inevitably served up with these days.
I can see where you're coming from BaggieMan but there's middle ground to this as well.
To your first point of despising Pulis. I definitely was not a fan of him but the thing I actually despised were Stoke City FC, not Pulis.
Secondly, to say that we would have stayed up last season without any intervention is ludicrous. Obviously no-one can say with 100% clarity that we would have gone down under Irvine as well, but we can agree in hindsight that JP is very shrewd and has made the right call on several occasions now when it comes down to changing the manager.
A division between supporters or frankly differing opinions as it's also known isn't something exclusive to us or Stoke, there'll always be people who love a particular player and those that will loathe the same player, for example.
But calling people hypocrites for not jumping on the Pulis Out bandwagon is very silly. I don't want the bloke to manage my club any longer than is strictly necessary, yet I don't think another upheaval in coaching staff is the answer to our prayers in the short term either.
The rate we get through Head Coaches, I'm not sure anyone decent would want the job... Which is probably why we've ended up with Pulis in the first place.