And when the manager does not know any better Saint Charles Owl then he falls on his sword as we've seen in months and years gone by. Incidentally, I reckon the last time Hibs lost to Dumbarton, Pat Stanton resigned as manager of Hibs FC. But this won't likely happen to Alan Stubbs as he's just extended his contract and times and standards have changed!!! I'd acknowledge the manager's limitations due to injuries, player availability, poor form etc but there's also another debate developing in Hibs circles re the feared dressing room split that has arisen due to the Scott Allan affair and how Stubbs should manage that. That split appears to have spread among factions of Hibs fans and reported fights breaking out between Hibs fans at Dumbarton are not required TBH. But I can understand why it's happening because of the divided opinion re Allan and his comments and what the club should be doing about it. I'm sure it's a minority issue but the Allan fiasco itself has certainly polarised supporters' attitudes and opinions. I don't see that changing in the near future unless Hibs get rid but IMO such a move will likely open up another can of worms - something that Hibs, and the loyal fans who support them, can really do without and we'd rather just get on with trying to play well and have a good go at winning the Championship.