[jjamez]

I think bojan did ever so slightly more than ladapo, only slightly, I think he controlled the ball once to ladapo's not at all.

It was a boring watch and we were never likely to get owt from the game, but we didn't even try to lay a finger on them. We waved the white flag from the initial press conference. The defeatist mentality from this squad stinks, tom lees has showed it, wiles has shown it, duff is being stubborn and won't adapt. He did the same at Swansea and looks what happened.

We need to remove Cartwright too, one bad window is just about recoverable from, especially when Warnock was there making some decisions too, but his others have been woeful.

What we need to do is what we thought we were going to do in summer and rip it up and start afresh like Hoyle did with Wagner and Webber. We need a new ethos, both those are available would they come I don't know, but we need something like that. We have too many serial losers in this squad, wiles has quite a few relegations to his CV, headley has barely known how to win, lees has spent most his career in relegation battles barring a couple of play off campaigns which he lost. Helik only knows relegation or battles. The comparisons between lees' interview and bielik's interviews are the most telling about the mentalities, one claims to thinking you are going to win every game is deluded and the other thinks they are too big for the division and are using it as preparation for 'doing an Ipswich' surely as a sports person you go into each game believing you can win or will win. Otherwise you are in the wrong industry. But again it just arcs back to the defeatist mentality that is rotting this club out.

We still have very few leaders in this group, for me Pearson, despite being a highly limited footballer, should be captain, I think he's the only one who has an almost overwhelming desire to win, the armband is something that will make him puff his chest out even further and it may bring a few along with him ala Peter Clarke, hoggys the same but I think he's on the wane and we need to plan for life without him.

People have said that Wagner wouldn't be good enough and has failed everywhere he's been since here, but schalke was a shit show since Tedesco got them to the champions league, they had massive off field problems leading the them being on the brink of losing everything. Yb Bern he finished second in a two horse race to Andre. Not great obviously. Norwich sold a lot of talent but didn't spend a great deal, they had some very good players still but playoffs was an achievement in itself he just fell this time. The Norwich fans were wanting webber gone much like us with Cartwright, so when he brought his own man in, in the form of Wagner, they didn't want him and were never going to take to him. If he'd gone in this summer instead of thorup I bet there would have been a better response from their fans.

Sometimes some people are just right for each other and maybe it is a bit of sentiment and romanticism, but we need something to galvanised us massively.