[theo_luddite]

Don't come on here talking common sense jjamez, you'll be getting an FA or FIFA ban. We'd pretty much made our minds up he was crap inside 15 minutes. 2 or 3 identical situations and a different decision every time.

To be fair, or not, we know they are all crap at our level down until they prove otherwise. There's a few doing Prima Donna League that lean on VAR more than they should too.

I still maintain it went downhill when 4th officials were appointed. Why a top ref is holding a sub board when he could be reffing a game makes no sense at all. A local or local County League ref could do that, but then the local Leagues would moan their best refs are holding the sub board.

If everyone around the dugouts could see that was a penalty yesterday then the 4th official must have seen it too. Was he allowed to tell the ref?

I'd rather they were than have VAR to be honest because those idiots pick and choose what incidents they want to look at or ignore. At the end of the day, they don't want their mates to look like dickheads I suppose.