[valpayne]

I get really bored watching Swansea and the likes playing tippy tappy. Its as bad as total hoofball on the eyes. You have to have a mix of styles and know when to apply them. Good teams do that. Even Real hit it long when the time is right. Gerrard is a hoofballer, so was Hoddle but the make raking 40 yard passes and are revered by their respective clubs.

If TP can educate the team to find the right balance as he was doing with Palace we'll be ok. Our biggest problem since we first came to the Prem with Megson is we just haven't had enough players with serious pace. Therefore we became one dimensional and convinced ourselves that possession football was the way to win games. That's why they revolted against Pepe. They hated pressing when they lost possession. Thankfully I don't imagine we'll see anyone telling TP and his motley crew that their tactics are wrong. TP teams don't play counter attacking football. It's about percentages. Get the ball in the box often enough and you'll score. Don't concede and the odds of winning increase. I think it'll be exciting ultimately. If we're creating chances and seeing players busting a gut TP will win a few people over.

Like Megson TP is tailor made for us. We like no nonsense talking and a strong work ethic. It's how we're made in the Black Country.

That's exactly right MTBW you have to mix it up. That's why I mentioned Chelsea and Arsenal in previous post. Chelsea because they can play some good football but they can be downright ugly to. Their quite happy to cheat as well, Ramires dive that lead to the penalty and the beginning of a horrible period that carried on until AI was sacked anybody?   They can dazzle at times but scrap out a 1-0 if needs be. This is the tactical nouse the moronihos    of the world possess that we've lacked since Hodgson departed and I truly believe there is more to TP than Hoofball. The difference between his big physical stoke average team compared to what he did with palace shows that. Arsenal on the other hand play the nice on the eye stuff almost constantly and that is why they're not achieving as much as teams like Chelsea because theyre a bit one dimensional and they get sussed out.  in fact many gooners want AW gone  

and I agree with you about the megson TP analogy though I believe TP is better than GM was But GM was a massive part of our return to top flight footy and yes the type of players we have do need to roll their sleeves up and work twice as hard to get results in this league. We were far to easy to beat but I think in just a few weeks we've already changed that mentality. We rarely beat Everton especially away so it was a hard fought draw ugly yes but never the less its what we need until we can get TP players in and some more weeks getting the philosophy across to the players then slowly we will see progress