(16-06-2021, 17:44)St Charles Owl Wrote:(16-06-2021, 16:50)0762 Wrote: And you call yourself a site moderator St Charles Owl?????? YOU DINNAE HALF HAVE YOUR OWN CRITICAL MOMENTS - PROVED TO BE A HUMAN BEING WITH HUMAN FRAILTIES AS WELL AND SANCTIMONIOUS ONES AT THAT! AS WELL AS SUDDENLY BEING ULTRA DEFENSIVE EHHHHHHH!!!![]()
Btw lotsa Tartan Army fans heading to London because their plans to travel were pre-arranged months ago at cost - just saying!! And in my OP it is just a statement of fact. I haven't defended it or backed it. As for Southgate's silly interview, I'm not gonna bother reeling off his jaw-dropping comments word for word but it certainly had a good number of Scot people, incl myself, coming out with the classic EHHHHHHHH word!! It was a football interview, not a political one, on a sports media channel!!! Embarrassing what!! And he did it twice FFS!!
Also re the Tartan Army, I'm sure most of us will have already "set our watches" for the first mention of 1966 - as predictable as clockwork with the self-assured reasoning that everyone, irrespective of their national background shares the same overwhelming English history - it is the very essence of entitlement.
Lastly, re that "political dimension" re footie - over the next few weeks, the serially dense will be out and about making the naive case for disaggregating politics and sport - a flawed argument with next to no moral authority whatsoever. Football reflects a sense of nationhood and community; it is funded by corporate capital and global media, and it is riven with old enmities sometimes born out of war and annexation - all components of what we widely consider to be politics. There are many historical international footie matches that reflect that association and there will be many more in the future.
Yes the seriously dense will turn this political, but that was my point in the first place, and before you start I do not consider you to be in that bracket. As for me being a site moderator, I don't see what that has to do with anything!! My "sanctimonious" moments have all occurred on threads surrounding that particular topic, I just didn't like seeing a football match thread being political from the off, I don't think that is necessary and there are plenty of other threads to do that. We have enough on the field history to have a good rivalry and have some banter, politics is just divisive at the moment. And we will always remember 1966, we won something, and if you ever get to win something you will do the same!! And lets not forget your name is your way of celebrating a couple of wins by your team over it's rivals, so we all remember the successes in our own way.
Compare both comments in bold and reflect! May I also say again that these comments in my OP that you have personally "made a mountain out of a molehill" (due to some personal "beef" re politics and sport being inter-related, AND THEY ARE BTW!!) are just accurate details of events in the lead up to the match at Wembley on Friday. Re the politics attached to this particular fixture, may I add that 1000s of Tartan Army members regard this match at this particular time to have a political element attached to it because of the expected anti-Scotland "poison" from the usual RW English press sources - THEY NEVER FAIL TO ANNOY AND SHOW DISRESPECT AND IT IS CONTRIVED! And re the repetitive 1966 reference, ad nauseum, the main point being made is why do the English media (esp in tv/radio broadcasts!!) have this "self-assured reasoning that everyone, irrespective of their national background, shares the same English footie history"?? That is indeed the very essence of entitlement and an affront to other disinterested footie fans/viewers/listeners of another national persuasion!! Is it a "crumb of comfort", something to hold on to, for those nostalgic people who "can't let it go"???? It happened well over half a century ago FFS!!! Well done but "leave it in the historical footie museum" at Wembley ehhhhh!! Lastly, even the "taking of the knee"/BLM issue demonstrated by England players became a political issue when the Scotland players and management were suddenly drawn in to it last Thursday (the day before the Euros started!!) that IMO arose mainly because the England players were booed AGAIN by sections of their own fans for doing this. Scotland/the SFA/Scot players eventually considering this "sudden criticism" from the Great Brit press/media sources re their "standing up against racism" (agreed and practiced for months by the Scotland players plus the SRU following the same line!) and deciding to show solidarity with the England players at Wembley in a one-off change of practice while in the background a Brit govt Home Secretary, an idiot who should've "shut her trap", vilified the England players for "taking of the knee"????? Again a highly political situation whether we like it or not!! D'ya remember a racist US President named Trump and his clashes with the NFL and NBA to try and "shut them up" on the same issue?? It is indeed nice to debate footie without all this kinda shit. But you can't "bury your head in the sand" TBH and in this case the England players had a right of reply to defend their stance.