[madsteve]

Well ive calmed down after that kick in the balls by the traffic cops !! and im playing again  

We need a new **** staduim , before we go up !! even if it just means nice bars tvs and toilets and dfeinatly the away end needs knocking to the floor !!! The biggest reason is so we can forget about the **** scousers !! and it needs to be big enough to fit in 5,000 away fans and at least 3,000 wednesday fans !! we need to make our ground more intimidating for the away team    we should also do something about joining the stands all of them together again to make a better atmosphere    so revamp it and we make it a little bit bigger capacity wise maybe to fill in 45,000 when liverpool & man united come to town    the rest we are talking 35,000 max for the likes of Newcastle sunderland chelsea everton Arsenal spurs ? we wouldnt get more than 30,000 though for the likes of stoke wba etc boring wank clubs  

Agree with most of this. More & more grounds are putting the away fans down the side in a corner so they can impact less on the match. Maybe we should look to put the away fans in the western section of the south stand & let home fans fill a new improved west stand.

We should notice how crowds have increased significantly at new grounds (Brighton, Derby, Sunderland, Arsenal, Leicester, Rotherham, Shrewsbury etc.) and that crowds have filled grounds that have improved & increased their capacity (Man Utd, Liverpool, Spurs, Preston, Newcastle etc.).

Whilst gate income is relatively less important, it is still important; hence why Chelsea, Spurs & Liverpool are all looking to increase their capacity. When we played Arsenal in those cup finals, their average home gate was similar to our (26-27k) but when they built the Emirates, their home crowds pretty much doubled overnight. Brighton was even more dramatic. 5k at the Goldstone became 2k at the Withdean which leaped to 26k at the Amex (the best ground in SBC by a distance IMO).

It is someway off but there is a big decision to be made. Do we spruce up The Old Lady or do we grasp the nettle & move to a 21st century stadium that can make us a PL force? Clearly if you build it, they will come.