(25-09-2019, 23:13)spireitematt Wrote:(25-09-2019, 16:23)hibeejim21 Wrote: We are in a very dangerous spot at the moment, as Blackford pointed out earlier the SNP and greens would be willing to help corbyn form an interim government that could try and 'break the logjam'.
They would need the 21 'independent Conservative' MPs to vote with Labour/SNP and the Greens.
After Labour voted through their motion today at there last day of conference, I can't see them winning an election. The delegates voted to keep free movement for EU citizens and want to extend it globally to open borders. They want to give migrants the vote even if they don't have citizenship, close down immigration centres and scrap the rule on access to benefits so migrants and immigrants can claim benefits off the system even if they have not paid in or been here that long, they will also get access to the NHS and housing.
They also voted this week to abolish private schools and seize the buildings and put them under public ownership which is hypocrisy seeing as most Labour MPs send there children to private school.
The SNP are more like the opposition than Labour are. At least Ian Blackford can hold Johnson to account where Corbyn can't. Shame Ian Blackford can't become PM as he is the only leader who actually speaks any sense.
Ian Blackford is a good Hibee as well Matt!! A top man!
I must also add that, just like you, Corbyn and the Labour Party have totally bemused me and up here in Scotland Richard Leonard and the inept "out of touch" Scot Labour Party have definitely lost it and will be literally "wiped out" politically even though they have almost got there anyway after the last 12 years of degradation!! But reflecting back to Corbyn and his party, they wanna be "all things to all people" if you get my drift but it does not work that way. He should be leading decisively and choosing a side - in Labour's case, it looks like it should be remain mainly because that is the "mood swing" in England re Brexit even amongst a lotta previous leave voters and the decisive "middle ground" is remain territory. As previously commented, "I'm stumped re this lack of direction and leadership but unsurprised as it has gone on for that long with no significant change"!!! Is it deliberately ambiguous??? I'm not sure any more!! I'd say sit still and let the Tories move from crisis to crisis and eventually implode!! Also watch Johnson's disgraceful narrative on his return to parliament tonight - worth watching because this was real poisonous stuff being uttered by a moron who is guising as a British PM but using Trump style poisonous narrative to try and separate into a "them and us" political scenario - it is horrible politics that are being played out by desperate RW scumbags and I certainly fear that someone is definitely gonna get hurt, or worse, if they don't tone it down!!