Your defining comment is "that's where the power lies" (that is why many Scots scoff at the shameless equal partnership hypocrisy by too many ENGLISH unionist politicians and others!!!) and btw London is a part of England and its % vote was as relevant as the other votes. It just suits the argument that brexit has some outstanding reason to be validated, even a no deal, which is ridiculous because of the closeness of the result and the shameless shenanigans attached to it incl the murder of that poor Labour MP, Jo Cox! I must also add for over two years I've read and listened to the same repetitive nonsense such as uttered in thread #1224 and they are insinuations/opinions, most of which have been refuted by referring to proper EU and government documents! Being an ex academic who has studied transport economics, macro economics and covered many research docs, I do find much of this unsubstantiated stuff extremely tedious and disingenuous and the only response is to refer to the proper scripts and references that can generally refute a lotta the shit that is being uttered by various categories of people with an agenda that effectively centres on "leaving the EU, it'll be OK (sic)". It is as Jim eloquently described it - the charlatans actually "got away with it" in 2016 and couldn't believe their luck and now they are desperate to make it happen on a 52% vote that has swung the other way since the year 2016. In Scotland, it is estimated that the remain vote is higher now and above the 70% mark! I'd estimate that the English one will be similarly up but never as high as the Scottish votes! IMO it indicates the disparity in culture, values, society between the two countries! There are a lotta factors "in the mix" that make England what it is at the moment and many of these "negative" factors have been debated on this Sb board.