[theo_luddite]

As long as Shep can post proof that it's said or written (and where perhaps will this reference be in advance) I'll accept it and I'll go for something that is more easily measured by us all. Just awarding 2 points 'cos you've taken AmChaff down the chippy and are enjoying yourselves instead of watching another dire England performance with the rest of us is a cop out.

I might need to rephrase some of that.