[Devongone]

Er we don't stop trading with EU countries just because we aren't in it you know. They can't manage without us just as we can't manage without them. They can't for instance set up new factories to work on the parts of unfinished goods that Britain currently makes within a year and a bit from a standing start. It ain't physically possible. O'Leary flying people to Dublin and bussing them back over the border. Yeah that's going to be such a winner ......... It's just more "we can do stupid too" re-name it Fantasy Ireland.

I don't think a hard border will work either, but that is what the EU is demanding Ireland has to want.

If hard borders all around the edge of the EU are so efficient, where for instance do the drug problems in major European cities arise? Are they coming over the Irish border and will they ....... or do they enter via sleepy mediterranean ports, fishing harbours and some major but badly regulated ports? We keep on hearing about the over two hundred entry points between Northern Ireland and Eire ......... nobody mentions the current thousands of miles of unpoliced coastline and back roads into the EU .......

All that is happening is both sides are inventing hypothetical scenarios to push each other's buttons and see what happens. The EU has one objective only - to prevent us leaving. Our side has one objective only - to stay in power. You, I, your firm we're just well-dressings, send us to Tideswell.