28-02-2018, 11:58
(This post was last modified: 28-02-2018, 12:08 by hibeejim21.)
Whats scottish nationalism got to do with it ? Scotland voted predominately against brexit,not one seat. And thats including some of the most impoverished places in the UK. Scottish nationalists do not have a problem with immigration or freedom of movement - that was the predominant issue in england and wales.
I wouldn't have respected that result whatever, there was absolutely no need for that referendum and no great clamour from ordinary british people to have it. In the event it was clearly hijacked (often similarly to the US election) and illegally manipulated by the right wing elite, their hard brexit tory friends in parliament and useful idiots like farage..... who told lie after lie after lie (some of which have been repeated on here) to scare people half to death of the EU.
So lets see these 'different reasons'. For most leave voters it was EU immigration that was the issue and the stats back that up. The elderly and people with low education tended to support it most. People were clearly scared that foreigners would take the jobs that they don't tend to want anyway.
I visited poland last year and was surprised at the standard of living,and their wages have increased 30% in the last few years whilst ours have fallen by what 13% ? And how has this been achieved ? Its due to the EU working to standardise living standards in its member states, the numbers of EU immigrants were going to fall naturally. The real issue is non-EU immigration which is about to rise again steadily, especially after we do these much vaunted new trade deals. With our ageing population and demographic its the only way. And then what happens ?
Yup. An absolute snake of a man. His weakness and stupidity has dealt the UK a huge blow,i hold him even more responsible than the brexit voters. Its power at all costs with his ilk, forget the national interest.
It will be ok for him on his carribean beach with his millionaire wife and daddys tax dodged gains.
I wouldn't have respected that result whatever, there was absolutely no need for that referendum and no great clamour from ordinary british people to have it. In the event it was clearly hijacked (often similarly to the US election) and illegally manipulated by the right wing elite, their hard brexit tory friends in parliament and useful idiots like farage..... who told lie after lie after lie (some of which have been repeated on here) to scare people half to death of the EU.
So lets see these 'different reasons'. For most leave voters it was EU immigration that was the issue and the stats back that up. The elderly and people with low education tended to support it most. People were clearly scared that foreigners would take the jobs that they don't tend to want anyway.
I visited poland last year and was surprised at the standard of living,and their wages have increased 30% in the last few years whilst ours have fallen by what 13% ? And how has this been achieved ? Its due to the EU working to standardise living standards in its member states, the numbers of EU immigrants were going to fall naturally. The real issue is non-EU immigration which is about to rise again steadily, especially after we do these much vaunted new trade deals. With our ageing population and demographic its the only way. And then what happens ?
(28-02-2018, 01:16)0762 Wrote: The guy who still 'gets ma craw' even now is David Cameron, one of the worst British PMs in living memory and a selfish one 'to boot'! He was a major player in the shameless unionist lies, similar to the shameless lies/deceptions of brexit, that were fed to the Scottish voting population in Scot referendum year 2014 and then had the gall to set up that ill-conceived EU referendum bill after not even honouring a min devo-max settlement as promised in late 2014-early 2015 - the shit British state playing 'funny buggers' on the promises that were laid out in their pre-voting stance (the infamous 3 amigos scenario). He had no right to even go near that Tory political folly but he foolishly did it anyway and 'slipped on a banana skin' in the process - a total imbecile and inadvertent political saboteur who has created a major problem and division throughout the country!!! I hate this man/coward with a passion and he just had to be a toerag!
Yup. An absolute snake of a man. His weakness and stupidity has dealt the UK a huge blow,i hold him even more responsible than the brexit voters. Its power at all costs with his ilk, forget the national interest.
It will be ok for him on his carribean beach with his millionaire wife and daddys tax dodged gains.