[St Charles Owl]

I'm with imre and Maddix on this. Hirst has more talent in his big toe than deadbeats like Nuhiu and the other bench warmers have in their entire bodies. He should be playing in the first team or at least given a bench spot. I don't blame him for wanting to move on.

But thats the whole point, we wanted him to go out on loan so he could get valuable game time but his refusal to sign a contract meant we did not do this. He will get his transfer and then will go out on loan immediately, he will not go onto anyones bench however useless the players on it are!! He is completely unproven, he needs to go on loan and prove himself, and then he might be able to force his way into the squad.

As I said, if this was about first team football, he would sign the contract on offer, which is apparently the best we have ever made to an academy player, and go out on loan, but its not about playing time or even bench time, its about money!!

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I get what you're saying Chaz but the whole episode has been badly handled by us and his old man. Personally, if it was my kid, I would rather eat dog shit than hope that he becomes a meal ticket and can pay off my drinking debts   David Hirst has a lot to answer for on this one as his son will get a big payday at a top club but is just as likely to spiral into obscurity as he is to make it big if he goes to one of the EPL farms. He might get a 3 year contract on biggish money, which could pay his dad's debts off, and then end up on loan at Royal Antwerp before signing for Guiseley. So instead of having a decent career over 10 to 15 years he will more than likely end up on the scrap heap in 3 years as so many of the  EPL Academy kids do   Still, he should have paid his old mans debts off by then  

And from the clubs side, they should be telling him this  

100% agree with you Maddix. He is letting himself down and the club are either not advising him correctly or because he has an agent maybe they are not allowed to. He is listening to the hype surrounding him, no doubt his agent is telling him he is the best as well, but there is as much chance of him disappearing like you said or having a solid career, its just a shame he isn’t prepared to do that with us.

Look at the careers of the likes of Harry Kane or Dele Alli or Barkely or Wickham or De Brunei or Lukaku or so many other players who went out on loan to play games against real men in real life matches before they came back to their parent clubs both better players and better prepared to move into the first team, this is the path he should be taking. Very few players go from the youth team to first team, Beckham, Rooney and Rashford are the exceptions rather than the rule.