[spireitematt]

' That would be a bit like me taking your food and then selling it back to you at a higher price'

Well it might be if there was such a thing as 'british fish' and if you didn't know anything at all abut quotas and historic catch shares,or acknowledge that british fisherman fish in others waters and sell their fish abroad,get repairs etc overseas. So aye it would be like that if it wasn't totally untrue, your quite right.



'I think the other reason in places like Grimsby, Boston, Lincolnshire etc they voted to leave because they have a lot of migrants living and working in the towns picking the fruit and veg in the fields.'


Now i do agree with you on that score. But its the supermarkets that cut farmers' margins to the bone and if farmers have to pay higher wages then they will either stop producing uneconomic food and hey presto you get price rises. Its heading that way anyway post brexit. Unless you do 'environmentally suspect' food deals with the likes of the USA. And thats coming too.

The alternative to immigration is robotisation. But that requires massive investment and the question now is how to transition from low wage, low productivity to high investment and high productivity. The tories don't seem to have a clue how to do it,corbyn at least is least trying to take the debate forward but i'm not sure he knows how to do it either.


'it's very very hard to see this Government lasting.'


They are a complete joke,but they won't go to the country any time soon. They are in no state for an election even next year and have given the DUP a lot of cash to make sure they can cling on to power.

Supermarkets are not good to farmers especially when it comes to dairy farming and cattle farming. Supermarkets were paying farmers a pittance for the milk they were producing but they have paid them a little bit more but not much. I watched a programme on BBC 2 called This Farming Life and they followed farmers in Scotland and one farmer was complaining about the rules and regulations supermarkets impose on him when selling beef to them.

Also weird how you mention robots as a I read an article a few days ago that 600,000 jobs could be loss in the next two decades due to robots doing the work. I also read about how operations in hospitals could be done through a robotic mechanical hand which is manned by a machine operator. Scary stuff. If robots are meant to take jobs then UBI (Universal basic income) will need to look at becoming a possibility for the future.

Yes they are a complete joke at the minute and they have no credibility. Yes they gave the DUP £100 billion which came from the magic money tree or down the back of the sofa. It's a disgrace that they gave £100 billion to them so they can cling to power while the NHS is struggling and public sector pay workers haven't had a pay rise. If they stopped with these white elephants like HS2 then they would have more money for public services. As for HS2 down South where they are building the track they are tunnelling so they don't have to knock down peoples houses but when it gets so far up North they are going to have to knock down houses.

HS2 is not needed instead of building something which will rip the country in two they should just reopen new lines and maintain the lines we already have. They also need to abandon fracking and nuclear power as majority of people don't want it and don't like the idea of it.

Also another thing which really gets on my nerves is the term "Northern Powerhouse" The Northern Powerhouse has apparently been going for the last 2 years but no one really knows what it is or what it does. The Northern Powerhouse has never even started its just a term the Tories have coined to keep the floating voter and Northern Tories happy or to be seen to be doing something.

Another thing which I find rather odd is voters still hark on about Labour and what they did back in 2007/2008 that was over 10 years ago and Labour haven't been in power for 7 years but they still harp on about it but they don't criticise the Tories and what they've done over the last 7 years in power its like they've got short memories when it comes to the Tories either that or its Stockholm syndrome. I blame the media because the media in this country is predominantly right wing and they feed so many lies instead of being impartial and telling the public the truth.