Good comments re the 'political and economic reasoning' of the EU and most of its member states but the EU is still 'defending the indefensible'TBF! The position of EU President Tusk and his EU counterparts, Juncker and Verhofstadt, is untenable. Verhofstadt leads the Alliance for Liberals and Democrats for Europe Group - that's a 'laugh'! The EU should be mindful of its treaties promoting democracy and democratic rights of its citizens and yet it focuses on the economic rather than the human rights and interests of the Catalan people.This trio backing Rajoy and his repressive methods in the way they are doing it really is 'defending the indefensible'. Meanwhile during yesterday's big unionist demonstration in Barcelona pro Franco fascist chanting and fascist/natsi salutes coming from factions within these pro union attendances!!!!?? And consequent sporadic violence with the Police and intimidation of the local Police. As usual, these people finally show up in numbers 'out of nowhere'! In Scotland, it was the same scenario although a smaller presence, at the tail end of the referendum 2014 conclusion. These people were never seen during the hustings fortnight when I was in Barcelona on vacation!!! 
And ironically the violence is attached to them and the Spanish govt who they support!!! It's well seen that the shit extreme influence of General Franco is still evident within Spanish society/people and, as mentioned in the previous thread, why other regions of Spain wanna separate away from these c#### for similar reasons!!
Lastly, why are these following obvious questions not being asked by the condoning people in the international community: 1. I'm a fan of constitutions BUT is this relative 40 year constitution 'fit for purpose' in the 21st century? 2. Does it uphold democracy? 3. Has it turned into an instrument of national oppression?
Nuff said!
And ironically the violence is attached to them and the Spanish govt who they support!!! It's well seen that the shit extreme influence of General Franco is still evident within Spanish society/people and, as mentioned in the previous thread, why other regions of Spain wanna separate away from these c#### for similar reasons!!Lastly, why are these following obvious questions not being asked by the condoning people in the international community: 1. I'm a fan of constitutions BUT is this relative 40 year constitution 'fit for purpose' in the 21st century? 2. Does it uphold democracy? 3. Has it turned into an instrument of national oppression?
Nuff said!