23-10-2017, 20:02
That's a cracking article you found there Beef, it hit the nail very squarely on its head, I only wish I were so articulate because it says exactly how I feel.
I echo 4eva and SirMegson's sentiments that on occasions the hostility towards Pulis gets deflected on to the supporters that were prepared to give him the time to move us onto the next level. Baggieman you said from the word go you didn't want TP at our club and nobody could never accuse you of sitting on the fence and your dislike of him has never wavered, and coming from Stoke you more than likely get a feel of how things soured there better than I do.
I was one of the ones who was prepared to give him a go and though I wouldn't go as far as calling him a God, he has, for the last 2 years, done a fantastic job. He came with the remit of keeping us up which he did and then did it again with near enough the same set of players he inherited following transfer windows that through no fault of his were disastrous.
I don't like the hounding or the name calling and how long before his family start getting dogs abuse in the stands or the car park - and that's where this is heading.
Tony Pulis will drag every ounce of effort out of average players and make them into a unit, it's what he does and whatever we think of him he does it bloody well, he always has. By hook or by crook he'll get results with players that really shouldn't be getting them.
As the article says the problems start when he hasn't just got bang average players, he's now got some very good creative players but refuses to loosen the reins and let them play. I've used the word dinosaur to describe him before, because he still lives in the age where he's never had high quality players, his whole managerial career has been about making a team out of hard workers, not much entertainment, not many goals but still hard to beat.
We are better off than we were last year, personnel wise, but they're being told to play the way we were last year.
It's now down to the board to act, Pulis has taken us as far as he can, we've brought in the next level of players, now we need a manager/coach who'll let them play the way they can to move the club up to the next level.
It is time for Pulis to go, but I'd say thanks for keeping us where we are and for stabilising us for 2 seasons when we were a disaster waiting to happen. We're back there now I reckon, a disaster waiting to happen, but it's the board who need to make the change, Pulis certainly won't because I honestly don't think he knows how to.
I echo 4eva and SirMegson's sentiments that on occasions the hostility towards Pulis gets deflected on to the supporters that were prepared to give him the time to move us onto the next level. Baggieman you said from the word go you didn't want TP at our club and nobody could never accuse you of sitting on the fence and your dislike of him has never wavered, and coming from Stoke you more than likely get a feel of how things soured there better than I do.
I was one of the ones who was prepared to give him a go and though I wouldn't go as far as calling him a God, he has, for the last 2 years, done a fantastic job. He came with the remit of keeping us up which he did and then did it again with near enough the same set of players he inherited following transfer windows that through no fault of his were disastrous.
I don't like the hounding or the name calling and how long before his family start getting dogs abuse in the stands or the car park - and that's where this is heading.
Tony Pulis will drag every ounce of effort out of average players and make them into a unit, it's what he does and whatever we think of him he does it bloody well, he always has. By hook or by crook he'll get results with players that really shouldn't be getting them.
As the article says the problems start when he hasn't just got bang average players, he's now got some very good creative players but refuses to loosen the reins and let them play. I've used the word dinosaur to describe him before, because he still lives in the age where he's never had high quality players, his whole managerial career has been about making a team out of hard workers, not much entertainment, not many goals but still hard to beat.
We are better off than we were last year, personnel wise, but they're being told to play the way we were last year.
It's now down to the board to act, Pulis has taken us as far as he can, we've brought in the next level of players, now we need a manager/coach who'll let them play the way they can to move the club up to the next level.
It is time for Pulis to go, but I'd say thanks for keeping us where we are and for stabilising us for 2 seasons when we were a disaster waiting to happen. We're back there now I reckon, a disaster waiting to happen, but it's the board who need to make the change, Pulis certainly won't because I honestly don't think he knows how to.