22-10-2017, 13:52
(This post was last modified: 22-10-2017, 14:28 by hibeejim21.)
I think lawyers and solicitors should be doing the negotiations and it should be cross party, They need people like Starmer and Hague helping with the negotiations
I'm confused now, i thought it was a lack of business acumen you had a issue with ? Either way the EU negotiating teams come from a very broad background,far more than the UKs. You know yourself why it can't ever be cross party. We've discussed it plenty on this echo chamber, that said i didn't realise hagues background was in law,or EU law like starmers.
The trade negotiations will be like a business deal as they will need to negotiate tariffs.
It will be much,much more complicated than that,As the head of air france was pointing out earlier.
" Germany have said they want a trade deal sorted as soon as possible because they export more goods to us than we do to them and there is even talk of Germany doing a special trade deal with us".
More obfuscation. Again as you've been told many times on here,germany trades far,far more with the single market. Their business leaders have made it clear the integrity of the single market comes first. There won't be any special deal ffs,it would go against what the EU is all about.
"The articles and treaties won't apply to us if we are leaving fully but they will apply to us if we stay in the single market. The biggest thing which is stalling talks is the EU want EU citizens currently residing in the UK to be given the right to live and work and the UK want the same for the expats leaving on the continent and neither side will say if they will allow them to stay."
More lies and nonsense. Spain have already confirmed UK citizens can stay,as have others. Its May thats playing that game. Many of those articles and treaties that won't apply are part of UK law. As starmer and others have pointed out the tories 'great repeal bill' is flawed and much of that will stay in place post brexit. Even mays hated ECJ will still have sway.
"No one has left the EU before so this is unknown to the EU and to the UK. The only country to leave the EU or the common market was Greenland who voted to leave in 1982 over a row over fishing rights but they didn't leave properly till 1985 as it took 3 years to sort a deal out on fish"
Irrelevant. Although hilariously the greenland negotiator of that warned the UK that what we were doing was crazy.
'If we stay in the EU it could become a federal Europe with no borders and people can travel freely across the continent to live and work with 1 flag, 1 anthem, 1 currency.'
The UK has a veto on closer integration as a member of the EU. So please stop this pish.
If you are looking for an undemocratic state to slag off take a look at the UK. One country dominates the others and is due to drag all out of the EU whether they like it or not. The UK has more unelected politicians than all of the EU countries and the EU put together.
I'm confused now, i thought it was a lack of business acumen you had a issue with ? Either way the EU negotiating teams come from a very broad background,far more than the UKs. You know yourself why it can't ever be cross party. We've discussed it plenty on this echo chamber, that said i didn't realise hagues background was in law,or EU law like starmers.
The trade negotiations will be like a business deal as they will need to negotiate tariffs.
It will be much,much more complicated than that,As the head of air france was pointing out earlier.
" Germany have said they want a trade deal sorted as soon as possible because they export more goods to us than we do to them and there is even talk of Germany doing a special trade deal with us".
More obfuscation. Again as you've been told many times on here,germany trades far,far more with the single market. Their business leaders have made it clear the integrity of the single market comes first. There won't be any special deal ffs,it would go against what the EU is all about.
"The articles and treaties won't apply to us if we are leaving fully but they will apply to us if we stay in the single market. The biggest thing which is stalling talks is the EU want EU citizens currently residing in the UK to be given the right to live and work and the UK want the same for the expats leaving on the continent and neither side will say if they will allow them to stay."
More lies and nonsense. Spain have already confirmed UK citizens can stay,as have others. Its May thats playing that game. Many of those articles and treaties that won't apply are part of UK law. As starmer and others have pointed out the tories 'great repeal bill' is flawed and much of that will stay in place post brexit. Even mays hated ECJ will still have sway.
"No one has left the EU before so this is unknown to the EU and to the UK. The only country to leave the EU or the common market was Greenland who voted to leave in 1982 over a row over fishing rights but they didn't leave properly till 1985 as it took 3 years to sort a deal out on fish"
Irrelevant. Although hilariously the greenland negotiator of that warned the UK that what we were doing was crazy.
'If we stay in the EU it could become a federal Europe with no borders and people can travel freely across the continent to live and work with 1 flag, 1 anthem, 1 currency.'
The UK has a veto on closer integration as a member of the EU. So please stop this pish.
If you are looking for an undemocratic state to slag off take a look at the UK. One country dominates the others and is due to drag all out of the EU whether they like it or not. The UK has more unelected politicians than all of the EU countries and the EU put together.