13-07-2017, 02:47
(This post was last modified: 13-07-2017, 02:53 by St Charles Owl.)
(12-07-2017, 23:27)0762 Wrote: Looking logically at farmers and the receipt of those millions n millions of quid in EU subsidies, one can ask the simple question, 'Why are all these farmers receiving these welcome payments anyway'? Is it because their food production/business is not efficient enough and they require that support? Consequently if the subsidies are removed, will these businesses naturally 'go to the wall', how will it affect the UK food market and how many of them will end up that way as I'm assuming the bigger farming conglomerates, more than likely major backers of the conservative party, are less affected than the rest and will survive through this crisis?
Removing the subsides and, probably more importantly, removing the tariffs placed on imports will likely see a substantial increase in foreign food entering the UK from countries outside the EU. It will also likely see prices in the stores drop with regards to some food items, so the average punter may see a saving here. But after that the benefits will stop, farmers will not grow products that are needed but not easy to produce or that profitable without the subsides, which in turn will either mean shortages or higher prices on some items. I understand a bit about what the subsides are designed to achieve, but they have always seemed a bit unfair as well, maybe seeing market forces decide will bring benefits, but I wouldn't put too much faith in that.
(13-07-2017, 01:01)hibeejim21 Wrote: Just wait til the fisheries realise they can't operate without the a) eastern european crews and b) the EU operated markets
Boris will sort it i'm sure.
The brexiters on here are very,very quiet.
Fisheries is another area within the EU that always seems to have courted controversy and unfairness to many in the UK. Maybe they will have to operate with UK labour instead, that would be a novel idea!! And maybe we will have to pay more for our fish and chips!!
Ultimately with both of these areas, if Brexit happens then there is nothing to stop the UK government from sticking with the subsides that the EU currently provides and continuing to prop up these industries like they are now. Not sure they will do that though but it would be possible.