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(12-05-2017, 19:54)themaclad Wrote:
(12-05-2017, 18:48)spireitematt Wrote:
(12-05-2017, 18:00)St Charles Owl Wrote: Corbyn is a disaster for Labour, he is unelectable!!  May knows this and she also knows this might be the one and only chance she has to actually win an election!!  Assuming that leaked manifesto is real then for me that would be the final nail in the Labour coffin as regards my vote, if I was able to vote!!  In the past I have mainly voted Labour but have also voted Tory and Lib Dem depending on the situation but Corbyn and that manifesto looks to me like something to take Britain back to the Winter of Discontent in the late 70s, and that is essentially what led to Thatcher gaining power!!  Of course we will have to wait to see how Labour intend to fund all these initiatives, as well as tackling the budget deficit in 5 years without there being a major impact on the economy.  Its very noble to make the highest earners pay more tax and to make companies that are successful pay more tax, but post Brexit I would think the last thing we want to do is add to the business tax companies have to pay!!

What's wrong with renationalising the railways again? Ticket prices on railways are too expensive, the trains are dirty and not kept clean and they are owned by German and French companies and those same companies put our ticket prices up to subsidise there own NATIONALISED railways to keep them going is that fair?

Our Energy companies are owned again by French and German companies and they put the prices sky high and people don't bother changing suppliers because there is no point as it would cost more money in the long run.

We have no industry anymore in Britain. Jobs are few and far between, there's far too many temporary jobs and zero hour contracts where the employee has no rights. How people meant to live off zero hour contracts? Yes there alright for Students or if someone wants a bit of extra cash but they don't work for people who have a mortgage and bills to play.

We've have foodbanks in Britain and they are on the rise.

Everyone is saying its going back to the 1970s but you do realise this will be done on a modern economy not the economy of 40 years ago. Look at the Scandinavian model they have a lot of what Labour is suggesting and they are light years ahead.

We can't keep going with austerity and Dickensian economics and keep making cuts to public infrastructure. Austerity is not working.

We live in a selfish society where everyone is thinking what they can get out of it, not what is best for everyone but themselves its the i'm alright Jack, sod you mentality. Where if its not affecting them then its not true and its not happening but when it finally does affect them they are outraged and it will affect them sooner or later.


Matt
You are right about energy changes but that is down to green levies due to the Climate Change Act brought in by Ed milliband in 2008, we are paying through the nose to ensure that people can still live on a clean planet in 2100 when we will all be dead how do you think the Chairman of Veggie Green Rovers has made his billion ofrom the tax payer.
There was a programme on the Beeb about a nun Sister Ruth, she went to a good bank in Glasgow where they had to mark the goods to stop people selling them to get drugs. Like everything that is free it will be abused

I thought you had to be referred to a foodbank by the jobcentre or local GP surgery?

Because he owns Ecotricity. Ecotricity has done well by using solar and wind power.

(12-05-2017, 20:10)0762 Wrote: Well you can clearly detect the frustration of watching the same shameless political antics of the usual suspects that I've observed so often in British politics and referenda since 2014! It never changes and there is a much of a muchness re the attitudes of all these allied unionists particularly north of the border and I won't be the only voting Scot to be aware of it and highlight it!!

(12-05-2017, 19:57)spireitematt Wrote: I like the Labour manifesto its not bad. Corbyn is a nice man but not a great leader.

The way I see it we can't keep going with austerity and Dickensian economics when it isn't working and we can't keep borrowing more money, borrow now and worry later won't work either.

0762 if Scotland leave the Union then Scotland will have to pay a share of the National debt and how are you going to be able to afford the payments to the EU?

We'll afford the likes of the payments to the EU through proper fiscal prudence after we take back full fiscal power to run our own economy and country! For example, based on JERS figures (much of them estimated btw) did you know that Scotland's annual incoming finance is roughly £60B with all outgoing finances reckoned to be £15B and that's without looking at a positive push towards enhancing our inward investments! I think a small country like Scotland can work very well from that economic base and push on with making it better!!

Ireland have a smaller population than Scotland and I suppose they if can do it then you can but they are €200 billion in debt though.
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