[Beefy 1965]

Should Martinez be allowed to get away with this,
The referee didn't see it, the fourth official didn't see it,
But because Roberto Martinez brought it up at his press conference Saido is facing a three game Ban as the above officials didn't see it so video evidence can be used.
I don't like to see other players getting players sent off.
Now it seems as though managers are getting in on the act too
Disgrace ...............

http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/816396290?-11200:789:0

[Dingle-Dingle]

I saw Kanu fist the ball into the net. Honestly. I was there and had decided to watch him all game. Please take action, nullify the goal and award the match to the Baggies. Big can of worms being opened here, Hope it bites Martinez on the bum. DD

[Beefy 1965]

It's Crazy
Let's hope that they give Robert Huth a 3 game ban for deliberately throwing 2 WBA players to the ground and barging another off the ball when Leicester came to the Hawthorns.

Oh and maybe we can have the three blatant penalties that should have been awarded along with it

[drewks]

I disagree.
I don't like Martinez - IMO he's starting to get to the same levels of irritating whining as Mark Hughes.
However, if we're talking about players being found guilty of VIOLENT BEHAVIOUR retrospectively, then I believe that the FA should use video evidence, however it is brought to their attention.
Just because we've had bad decisions in other games and in other ways against us means nothing. I haven't seen this one but if Sulky Boy is guilty then he deserves all he gets

[Tibby Baggie]

I disagree.
I don't like Martinez - IMO he's starting to get to the same levels of irritating whining as Mark Hughes.
However, if we're talking about players being found guilty of VIOLENT BEHAVIOUR retrospectively, then I believe that the FA should use video evidence, however it is brought to their attention.
Just because we've had bad decisions in other games and in other ways against us means nothing. I haven't seen this one but if Sulky Boy is guilty then he deserves all he gets

I'm of the same mind Drewks, violent behaviour should be punished whether it is during the game by the ref or retrospectively by the FA.

However, if violent conduct/behaviour can be punished retrospectively via video replays, why can't glaringly obvious mistakes be rectified by the officials DURING the game? So many incorrect offsides are given when a quick 5-10 seconds check on a replay by the fourth official would put the decision beyond any doubt. That's just one example.

I appreciate it is somewhat easier to retrospectively deal with violent behaviour using video, but if it's going to be used to make these important decisions like this incident with Berahino, it puts using video technology to help the refs right back into the spotlight. 

[4evaabaggie]

I agree violent behaviour is unacceptable and should be dealt with but not when it only applies to the smaller clubs, we have been victim to many incidents of violent or ungentlemanly behaviour, not a word is said, but when it's little ole Albion, then hang um out to dry. What about the thug Costa, or the cheating scouse using their own video ref. It has to be one rule for all ... Not exclude the FA's elite group of six exclusive members.

[Beefy 1965]

I agree any player of violent behaviour should be banned,
However if everybody including his dog has missed it, I don't think it's right for the opposing manager to bring it to the authorities attention,
It could set a dangerous president,
I can guarantee managers will be saying Tom, Dick or Harry should have been sent off for that if this is carried out,
Unknown waters we are crossing here

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Saido Berahino sweating over possible three-match FA ban for alleged James McCarthy stamp
17:19, 15 FEB 2016 UPDATED 17:19, 15 FEB 2016
BY JAMES NURSEY
Officials at the FA today requested footage of the incident from broadcasters to view it from every the angle
Saido Berahino is sweating on a possible ban after the FA asked to study footage of his alleged stamp on James McCarthy.

Officials at the FA today requested footage of the incident from broadcasters to view it from every the angle.


The West Brom forward could be hit with a three-match ban if found guilty of kicking out at Everton's McCarthy in Albion's 1-0 win at Goodison.

The incident not spotted by referee Michael Oliver or Neil Swarbrick, the fourth official, but prompted an angry backlash from McCarthy.

Everton manager Roberto Martinez complained post-match Berahino should have been sent off.

The FA now have until Tuesday night to obtain footage and make a retrospective decision on the first half clash.

This just does not sit right with me
Martinez says he should have a ban and looks like he is getting his wish,
Then below is a perfect example again of why this is so wrong just because a ref saw it so the player does not even go before the FA and gets away scot free................
CRAZY ...........


Re: Saido Berahino
« Reply #4094 on: Today at 09:20:01 PM »
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Got to be honest if Berahino gets a ban from something no-one seemed to see or be bothered about at the time and Danny Drinkwater gets away with his challenge on Aaron Ramsey which was seen by everyone but he is protected by the rule of the ref not taking action at the time then the game is gone.

[St Charles Owl]

Beefy 1965

I agree any player of violent behaviour should be banned,
However if everybody including his dog has missed it, I don't think it's right for the opposing manager to bring it to the authorities attention,
It could set a dangerous president,
I can guarantee managers will be saying Tom, Dick or Harry should have been sent off for that if this is carried out,
Unknown waters we are crossing here   

Surely the only precedent it will set is the one where players who do sneaky stuff away from or out of sight of the officials and still get called on it through video evidence.  It doesn't matter who brings it to the attention of the authorities, surely the important thing is that it is brought to the attention of the authorities and that if the player is guilty he be punished.  A manager making false claims won't happen as there has to be video evidence of the incident for a charge to be brought.

[May68]

From the end of the same article:
"It's thought Berahino's shock inclusion came about after Tony Pulis' original line-up was leaked to Everton by spies who had watched Albion's final training session in Liverpool the previous day."
Is spying on the opposition not a form of cheating worthy of a ban?

[4evaabaggie]

From the end of the same article:
"It's thought Berahino's shock inclusion came about after Tony Pulis' original line-up was leaked to Everton by spies who had watched Albion's final training session in Liverpool the previous day."
Is spying on the opposition not a form of cheating worthy of a ban?

No because the big boys were spying on the smaller boys .... so that does not count. But if it was the other way around, if we spied on Everton then we would get relegated to league two, heinous office by the little upstarts......

The establishment can do what they want when they want ..... quote from the film working girl ....when your at the top you can make and break the rules, for the rest, you can not get to the top unless you break the rules. Not an exact quote but the general idea.