[talkSAFT]

If there's anyone out there a few years older than me, they can perhaps confirm that in the late 50s Wolves were THE Club in the Country (even including ManU, who were everyone's darlings post-Munich), and Albion were always runners-up for most of the season. Football wasn't so high-profile in those Wolstenholme* days, but it WAS a year or 2 later (surprise surprise) when the mighty Spurs won the Double. I think that was when football got invented.

* Kenneth Wolstenholme was the Gary (Bumfluff) Lineker of the 50s/60s

[Dingle-Dingle]

Interesting observation by Alan Shearer.....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/35088746

DD (Sorry couldn`t resist laughing)

[silverbaggie]

If there's anyone out there a few years older than me, they can perhaps confirm that in the late 50s Wolves were THE Club in the Country (even including ManU, who were everyone's darlings post-Munich), and Albion were always runners-up for most of the season. Football wasn't so high-profile in those Wolstenholme* days, but it WAS a year or 2 later (surprise surprise) when the mighty Spurs won the Double. I think that was when football got invented.

*  Kenneth Wolstenholme was the Gary (Bumfluff) Lineker of the 50s/60s

Yes Talksaft quite right.

In the 1950's Wolves were league Champions 3 times and Runners up 3 times also. (Whisper it just in case they're listening).

In 1954 they pipped us to the title when we had led the old Division 1 for most of the season but, lost form at the end. They also stopped us from becoming the first team ever to win the league and cup double and, it was to be some years before Spurs finally did it.

Guy Wolstenholme and David Coleman were true professionals who enhanced MOTD and, didn't spend half the programme engaged in useless waffling with so called expert (over paid) pundits.

[talkSAFT]

If there's anyone out there a few years older than me, they can perhaps confirm that in the late 50s Wolves were THE Club in the Country (even including ManU, who were everyone's darlings post-Munich), and Albion were always runners-up for most of the season. Football wasn't so high-profile in those Wolstenholme* days, but it WAS a year or 2 later (surprise surprise) when the mighty Spurs won the Double. I think that was when football got invented.

*  Kenneth Wolstenholme was the Gary (Bumfluff) Lineker of the 50s/60s

Yes Talksaft quite right.

In the 1950's Wolves were league Champions 3 times and Runners up 3 times also. (Whisper it just in case they're listening).

In 1954 they pipped us to the title when we had led the old Division 1 for most of the season but, lost form at the end. They also stopped us from becoming the first team ever to win the league and cup double and, it was to be some years before Spurs finally did it.

Guy Wolstenholme and David Coleman were true professionals who enhanced MOTD and, didn't spend half the programme engaged in useless waffling with so called expert (over paid) pundits.

True - Wolstenhome and Coleman were very good. But didn't Wolstenholme get pilloried for wearing a Spurs Supporters Club tie in front of the cameras the once?

[silverbaggie]

Maybe he did I don't remember.

I suppose every MOTD presenter must support somebody; just as long as they remain even handed when reporting on or discussing matches involving their favourite team.

Unlike Hansen and Rollo who were so pro Liverpool it was pathetic. Wonder what they would have made of Klopp's recent after match interview. I used to admire Klopp but, to suggest that the Albion were not permitted to employ defensive tactics at Anfield was pathetic.

I know that we and a dozen or so other Premier Clubs are only allowed to be in the Premiership so that we can be cannon fodder for the teams that really matter but, even so.

[BaggieMan]

Who would like to see the Villa relegated ?

[aries22]

In 1954 they [Wolves] pipped us to the title when we had led the old Division 1 for most of the season but, lost form at the end. They also stopped us from becoming the first team ever to win the league and cup double and, it was to be some years before Spurs finally did it.

Preston North End were the first club to do the double way back when Australia was still connected to Gondwanaland or something, before even you and I were born.

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Who would like to see the Villa relegated ?

Not I, and nothing like the schadenfreude I felt watching Wolves implode their way to League One as Morgan and Moxey made one awful managerial appointment after another, starting with Terry Connor, and not even giving Steve Bruce an interview when he applied for the job.

Martin O'Neill started the rot for Villa's current situation with his hugely expensive buys on massive contracts. I think I read somewhere that his net spending was of the order of £75 million - for what, exactly, two, three or four top-six finishes? Then Lerner saw fit to appoint the awful Alex McLeish, who surely couldn't believe his luck and just as predictably failed miserably.

Villa's second problem next season might be keeping their best players to make a push for immediate promotion back from the Championship. Their first problem is that those players have already left. I can't see the likes of Jack Grealish doing it in the Championship.

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In 1954 they [Wolves] pipped us to the title when we had led the old Division 1 for most of the season but, lost form at the end. They also stopped us from becoming the first team ever to win the league and cup double and, it was to be some years before Spurs finally did it.

Preston North End were the first club to do the double way back when Australia was still connected to Gondwanaland or something, before even you and I were born.

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I stand corrected Aries; probably should have said first double since 1900 when the number of teams in the old first Division was somewhere near double figures.

On a slightly different tack is it Bolton or Derby who hold the record for the lowest number of points gained in a Premiership season?

AND

Could our illustrious neighbours be in with a chance of lowering that points total this season??

OH I DO HOPE SO!!!

[aries22]

On a slightly different tack is it Bolton or Derby who hold the record for the lowest number of points gained in a Premiership season?
AND
Could our illustrious neighbours be in with a chance of lowering that points total this season??
OH I DO HOPE SO!!!

Derby hold the record low with 11 points - one win, vs Newcastle, eight draws and 29 defeats. I used to work with Derby fans at Pirelli in Burton on Trent in the late 70s and they were full of themselves even then, even though Brian Clough had just won one European Cup with Forest and was on his way to retaining it.
Villa are in serious danger of taking that record, as I can't see where their next points are coming from. They have totally collapsed.

[talkSAFT]

To reach the 40 pts target they need 34 pts from 22 games (1.5 pts per game) which, with their current squad, is impossible.