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Rangers v Hibs - 20/05/15
#41
(21-05-2015, 20:54)1Wattie Wrote: From the papers this morning it looks like some of our players have already given up on gaining promotion and,if so, adds weight to the arguments I have been going on about on 606 for years.
After the game on Saturday Hibs will be saying cheerio to 5 or 6 players from our first team squad because of loans finishing and contracts expiring so I hardly expect them to bust a gut to achieve something they will not be part of.
The same thing happened last year when the team won the first leg and threw it away in the second. There were 7 first team regulars cast adrift after that game and they all knew they were going before the return leg. Hardly surprising that the team produced one of the worst displays of the season that day and I am convinced we will see a team going through the motions on Saturday.
Sadly this means that Alan Stubbs will be scraping around looking for players in July when, with the backing of the board. he could have signed the nucleus of a decent team long before now.

Rangers have at least 12 first team players out of contract at the end of the season, although only 5 played in the game:

Ian Black, Steve Simonsen, Lee McCulloch, Jon Daly, Kenny Miller, Kris Boyd, Bilel Mohsni, Stevie Smith, Kyle Hutton, Richard Foster, Lee Robinson and Sebastian Faure
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#42
(21-05-2015, 20:54)1Wattie Wrote: From the papers this morning it looks like some of our players have already given up on gaining promotion and,if so, adds weight to the arguments I have been going on about on 606 for years.
After the game on Saturday Hibs will be saying cheerio to 5 or 6 players from our first team squad because of loans finishing and contracts expiring so I hardly expect them to bust a gut to achieve something they will not be part of.
The same thing happened last year when the team won the first leg and threw it away in the second. There were 7 first team regulars cast adrift after that game and they all knew they were going before the return leg. Hardly surprising that the team produced one of the worst displays of the season that day and I am convinced we will see a team going through the motions on Saturday.
Sadly this means that Alan Stubbs will be scraping around looking for players in July when, with the backing of the board. he could have signed the nucleus of a decent team long before now. There's still an unacceptable football culture at Hibs that really has to change.

Then is it time for a post-match protest outside the West Stand right after this match if this story is true? I dont expect Hibs to be successful on Saturday, much the same as I went to the Falkirk match at Hampden with no belief or trust in certain Hibs players pulling us through against a poorer side than Hibs. Even a silent protest by thousands of disenfranchised Hibs fans would be something to register our anger with the club and a board that has defended the high price of season tickets and sold us this pre-season excuse that the extra money would be ploughed into Stubbs team rebuilding project - the price of failure again? The PO match ticket prices, £15 and £10, just confirm how out of touch Hibs are with decent Hibs fans and loyal ST holders and if Hibs are really stupid enough and unprincipled enough to hand out a full allocation of 3500 tickets to Rangers fans, then it just confirms how out of touch they are with lots of disillusioned, grassroots Hibs fans who regard an allocation of 950 tickets to them as an absolute necessity and also pen these fans into the bottom corner of the South Stand regardless of this stand being filled or not. I certainly don't want to attend this match and observe a full South Stand providing the atmosphere, prob missiles being thrown at our goalkeeper again and rubbing up Hibs fans during this match and in the post-match celebrations!! We have endured enough in the past 18 months! There's still an unacceptable football culture at Hibs that must change before we can progress properly.
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#43
Hibs have issued only 1500 tickets to Gers fans for the Easter Road tie - IMO 500 too many but it will do! I hope they pen them in to the side of the South Stand as a point of principle! Also some info coming in Gers fans have infiltrated some home stands - that'll be fun if it turns out to be true but I suspect we're looking at a small number of fans who are stupid enough to do this in this type of match!
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#44
The number sold might be relevant to segregation, 1500 might represent and easily policed and segregated area - just as the 950 was for our home tie.
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#45
Unlike tge lack of control in one corner of your end when there was a constant bombardment of paper missiles thrown at Scott Allan,thankfully it was only paper due to the lack of policing stewarding down there
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#46
The 1500 given is nothing to do with segregation.....its as easy to segregate the whole end as it is to police a half empty stand. (there won't be any Hibs fans in that end) It is purely to keep the number of Rangers fans down just as they did to Hibs fans on Wednesday night......tit for tat For myself I'd have given them 400 which would be a similar percentage of the ground capacity based on Hibs holding around 20K.
"FOREVER UNITED"
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#47
Not really tit for tat. As I understood it we gave you the same allocation as for the last league game at Ibrox. There was a bit of hullabaloo about your allocation for the playoff but when you looked at the facts behind it the fuss was really that we hadn't increased your allocation (And why should we have? Oh, because it's an important match. So? Since when did clubs have an obligation try to help the opposition?). Hibs, I believe, have reduced the allocation. I for one don't have a problem with you or any other club limiting the away fans to whatever allocation is mandatory. Just part of the game.

That said, it was funny to see one Hibs fan fall flat on his face by spouting the old sporting integrity crap to try to attack Rangers...just before his own club announced their intention to cut the away allocations for their own playoff games.
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#48
Tickets schmickets.

Ticket to the final and it's ours to lose.
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#49
(22-05-2015, 20:03)Fredstersafool Wrote: Unlike tge lack of control in one corner of your end when there was a constant bombardment of paper missiles thrown at Scott Allan,thankfully it was only paper due to the lack of policing stewarding down there

(22-05-2015, 21:28)El Car Wrote: Not really tit for tat. As I understood it we gave you the same allocation as for the last league game at Ibrox. There was a bit of hullabaloo about your allocation for the playoff but when you looked at the facts behind it the fuss was really that we hadn't increased your allocation (And why should we have? Oh, because it's an important match. So? Since when did clubs have an obligation try to help the opposition?). Hibs, I believe, have reduced the allocation. I for one don't have a problem with you or any other club limiting the away fans to whatever allocation is mandatory. Just part of the game.


That said, it was funny to see one Hibs fan fall flat on his face by spouting the old sporting integrity crap to try to attack Rangers...just before his own club announced their intention to cut the away allocations for their own playoff games.

Any other game you would have got 3500.......same as you did at the last match at ER so agreed not exactly tit for tat but all the Hibs Board could do to appease Hibs fans who were not best pleased with sevco.
"FOREVER UNITED"
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#50
Money you could have actually done with in hindsight, opportunity missed...
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