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WBA vs Sheff Wed & Charlton - Match Thread
#21
90+5 1-0 Charlton.

Tale of our season late goals, dropped points, missed chances, same tactics with the same result …… bugger all.

Is it time to start questioning the managers position?
Before our promotion push becomes a relegation dogfight.

Stoke win 3-0
Blues win 4-0
Coventry 2-1 up from losing
Middlesbrough down to 10 men but still create enough to score 90+6 …. 1-1

Why can’t we play like a team.
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#22
(10 hours ago)4evaabaggie Wrote: 90+5 1-0 Charlton.

Tale of our season late goals, dropped points, missed chances, same tactics with the same result …… bugger all.

Is it time to start questioning the managers position?
Before our promotion push becomes a relegation dogfight.

In answer to your question, it’s got to be “yes”. I think we’re all struggling with his selections and his tactics. I appreciate he can’t be held responsible for continued missed chain the pitch but neither do I see any recognition from him that his approach is behind our dismal performances and league position
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#23
Only one team wanted to win that. Our clueless manager strikes again!!!
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#24
In fairness to Mason, he changed things tonight and we were much better. Still a bit conservative but between Price and Iling-Junior, we had a lot of potential at the start of the second half.

But again we didn’t score. Where do goals come from when Johnston’s on the bench and Price can’t finish?

And again we stuff it up at the end. Griffiths made some good saves but big error again. No outlet from the pressure at the end. Is it fitness or leadership?
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#25
I don't remember considering if a manager should be sacked this quick, but I don't see how we are moving forward. We keep hearing about "moments" "chances" and "being unlucky" from Mason, but the truth of the matter is, that game was there for the taking. The only attacking sub he did make was far to late and I am not sure it was even attacking when its an attacking player who is substituted. Then he brings on two defenders, one who gave away the corner which lead to their goal, the other possibly assisting with a deflection, (not sure about that), eitherway substitutions should have come around 60-65minutes and at least been attacking, maybe putting two up front.
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#26
If results go against us tomorrow we could be in 17th …… any chance of promotion I think has gone, all we can do now is consolidate and hope to stay in this league. Maybe we could look at next year, every cloud has a silver lining, Black Country derbies next year.
Although they’ll beat us twice as well …..
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#27
We didn’t deserve to lose that!
It was good to see the ball being played forwards, rather than continually going sidewards and backwards.
I thought Mason should have brought on the subs much sooner and totally agree that our end product yet again, let us down; but I thought that there was a big improvement on what has been extremely poor games of late and at least I wasn’t bored out of my mind!
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#28
If you saw my previous post from earlier in the day, I predicted Johnston would be dropped. How dare he keep going forward and taking risks?

It's all too predictable. Keep chopping and changing wingers while we continue to tread water in the middle of the park...

To call a square a square, Mason did at least change things today. Operating 3 at the back was something that I thought could suit us. However, my reasoning was that we could use that formation to accomondate a number 10 and two strikers, like Darren Moore did when we had Harvey Barnes, Dwight Gayle and Jay Rodriguez in the same team. My logic was that with an extra man at the back, you wouldn't need 2 central midfielders who don't cross the halfway line.

Mason on the other hand just added an additional defender in the mix without changing anything in forward areas. We still had Diakite and Mowatt together. Effectively, leaving us 1 player short when going forward.

And shock horror, we failed to score, yet again.

There were a couple of positives. I thought Beilik looked good on his debut. Illing Junior was a real threat again, after a few quiet games.

Using Illing-Junior at wing back enables Mason to fit Johnston, Grant and another striker in the same team if he just drops Price in for Diakite. It's clear we need one of our central midfielders to go forward, but Mason just doesn't seem to see it.

Unless things change quick, it does feel like we could be in for a relegation battle as we keep losing games that we should draw. We should've drew at Ipswich, gave them a goal. Tonight, ditto.

And when we lose games like this, not only are we dropping a point, we're giving absolutely mediocre Charlton side 2 extra points.

My impression of Ryan Mason so far is that he's overly cautious coach who plays boring football. The subs tonight with Gilchrist and Mepham coming on appeared to be designed to enable us to "hang on". No disrespect to Charlton, but they're not Man City. Why does our manager not feel that we could make some positive changes and nick the points.

I've said before under previous regimes that negative football is acceptable if it's delivering results. However, when you're dull and losing every week, it's not good enough.
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#29
There was an improvement on games of late, but that wasn’t difficult given how poor we’ve been. The tactic tonight of playing for a 0-0 was unacceptable against a team that were there for the taking. I really thought the appointment of Mason was good one at the time, but it’s blatantly obvious that he’s out of his depth at Championship level.
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