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it wasn't really 442 yesterday though, Keane played most of the game at LM, it was more 4141

(22-02-2015, 22:06)peiowl Wrote: My glasses are just fine . How's your gray matter doing?  Toss stuff around and you'll get it thrown back. Thumb up

Starting line up had that total waste of space noopoo in it and you want him to lace up again??? Doh  Doh

He couldn't score a sodding goal if he had a bloody guarded escort leading him to it. Angry

The guy is bleeding useless. Should be banned from S6. Either May, Bus (if he's fit) or Madine (bring the sod back!!), Keane, or even that guy who does the naked belly dancerTango would be better. Whistle  Whistle  Whistle  Whistle

When did May last score for us?
When did Madine last score for us?
What have you seen Bus do that makes you think he'll be better than Nuhiu? He did fúck all vs Brighton
Can Keane play up front by himself when needed?


And what do you mean by tossing stuff about? You name call more than anyone on here. You don't even have the respect to call Nuhiu by his name and haven't for over a year
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(22-02-2015, 22:24)Thurnscoe_OWL Wrote: it wasn't really 442 yesterday though, Keane played most of the game at LM, it was more 4141


(22-02-2015, 22:06)peiowl Wrote: My glasses are just fine . How's your gray matter doing?  Toss stuff around and you'll get it thrown back. Thumb up

Starting line up had that total waste of space noopoo in it and you want him to lace up again??? Doh  Doh

He couldn't score a sodding goal if he had a bloody guarded escort leading him to it. Angry

The guy is bleeding useless. Should be banned from S6. Either May, Bus (if he's fit) or Madine (bring the sod back!!), Keane, or even that guy who does the naked belly dancerTango would be better. Whistle  Whistle  Whistle  Whistle

When did May last score for us?
When did Madine last score for us?
What have you seen Bus do that makes you think he'll be better than Nuhiu? He did fúck all vs Brighton
Can Keane play up front by himself when needed?


And what do you mean by tossing stuff about? You name call more than anyone on here. You don't even have the respect to call Nuhiu by his name and haven't for over a year

Keane played on the left in parts but drifted up front. Not sure if this was intended or just happened. It was useful because he scored when he was playing up front in a 442.

Think those questions are a bit of a red herring. Madine has started one league game for is in almost two years so has hardly had a chance to score. May is the only player to score at home for us except penalties since September so might be a good choice at home.
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(22-02-2015, 22:24)Thurnscoe_OWL Wrote: When did May last score for us?
When did Madine last score for us?
What have you seen Bus do that makes you think he'll be better than Nuhiu? He did fúck all vs Brighton
Can Keane play up front by himself when needed?

Mostly agree with this,  May has been just as disappointing as Nuhiu and Bus had a couple of decent efforts against Brighton and its too early to judge him, but he was slated to be playing up front until the injury in the warm up.  Madine hasn't played for us but hasn't exactly done great with his loan moves either!!  Keane could possibly play up front, as can Nuhiu, but I don't see may or Bus doing that as well as the other two.

Our strikers have struggled all year, of that there is no doubt, and they must take the lions share of the blame for this, but our wide men and midfield have also not created enough gilt edged chances either.  As time has gone on they are all desperate to score and consequently they are snatching at the chances they do get!!!



(22-02-2015, 22:48)madsteve Wrote: When did May last score for us?
When did Madine last score for us?
What have you seen Bus do that makes you think he'll be better than Nuhiu? He did fúck all vs Brighton
Can Keane play up front by himself when needed?


And what do you mean by tossing stuff about? You name call more than anyone on here. You don't even have the respect to call Nuhiu by his name and haven't for over a year

Keane played on the left in parts but drifted up front. Not sure if this was intended or just happened. It was useful because he scored when he was playing up front in a 442.

Think those questions are a bit of a red herring. Madine has started one league game for is in almost two years so has hardly had a chance to score. May is the only player to score at home for us except penalties since September so might be a good choice at home.

That has been  such a recurring theme of SGs reign, players  playing out of position either deliberately by him or by them drifting out of position to get somethung moving!!  Maguire/Mags both out wide most of the  year when both of them are better in other positions, May drifting out wide during games and now Keane!!  SG has the  defence very well organized but  he has been unable to achieve that in midfield or up front!!
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Most of my "name calling" as you characterize it has been in fun, thurnscoe. I even pmed you on that but you didn't have the courtesy to respond. Imre has a coarse brand of humor which is fun, and he and I can call each other names without either of us taking it personally. But your personal references to my age don't come across that way. They come across as impertinent, without humor. Don't ever think of making a career out of creative writing. Whistle Whistle

SCO. I have to differ with you here. "May has been just as disappointing as Nuhiu." May has been disappointing, granted. But, Nuhiu had all last season with the club and has been given chance after chance this season. May, on the other hand, it's his first season with the club. Yes, we all wish May had performed better, but to place him in the same category as Nuhiu is stretching it. Madine, as has been pointed out, has not been allowed to show what he can do by SG.
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That's fine then. You name calling is fine, me doing it back is personal and insensitive. Got it Thumb up
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(22-02-2015, 22:51)St Charles Owl Wrote:
(22-02-2015, 22:24)Thurnscoe_OWL Wrote: When did May last score for us?
When did Madine last score for us?
What have you seen Bus do that makes you think he'll be better than Nuhiu? He did fúck all vs Brighton
Can Keane play up front by himself when needed?

Mostly agree with this,  May has been just as disappointing as Nuhiu and Bus had a couple of decent efforts against Brighton and its too early to judge him, but he was slated to be playing up front until the injury in the warm up.  Madine hasn't played for us but hasn't exactly done great with his loan moves either!!  Keane could possibly play up front, as can Nuhiu, but I don't see may or Bus doing that as well as the other two.

Our strikers have struggled all year, of that there is no doubt, and they must take the lions share of the blame for this, but our wide men and midfield have also not created enough gilt edged chances either.  As time has gone on they are all desperate to score and consequently they are snatching at the chances they do get!!!




(22-02-2015, 22:48)madsteve Wrote: When did May last score for us?
When did Madine last score for us?
What have you seen Bus do that makes you think he'll be better than Nuhiu? He did fúck all vs Brighton
Can Keane play up front by himself when needed?


And what do you mean by tossing stuff about? You name call more than anyone on here. You don't even have the respect to call Nuhiu by his name and haven't for over a year

Keane played on the left in parts but drifted up front. Not sure if this was intended or just happened. It was useful because he scored when he was playing up front in a 442.

Think those questions are a bit of a red herring. Madine has started one league game for is in almost two years so has hardly had a chance to score. May is the only player to score at home for us except penalties since September so might be a good choice at home.

That has been  such a recurring theme of SGs reign, players  playing out of position either deliberately by him or by them drifting out of position to get somethung moving!!  Maguire/Mags both out wide most of the  year when both of them are better in other positions, May drifting out wide during games and now Keane!!  SG has the  defence very well organized but  he has been unable to achieve that in midfield or up front!!

Madine's record at Championship level is four goals from eleven starts (3 from 9 for Wednesday, 1 from 2 for Blackpool) which is a better than any of our other strikers.
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Madine won't play for us again though so there is no point in even considering him as an option. It's partly his own fault for being a knob off the pitch, the rest of the blame stands with Dave Jones and SG for not giving him a chance.

For what it's worth, I don't think he will cut it at this level as a prolific striker either
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(23-02-2015, 01:24)Imre varadi Wrote: May got f cuked over by the system of Sg about 10 games back  Doh  then he snatched at everything that came his way and he has turned into shit  Thumb down  he could come good again though ? but not under Sg  Thumb down

Keane isnt ours so why do we f cuking bother bigging players up that wont ever become ours !! i say this because hes obviously got talent like wickham and barkley before hence he wont be ours ever  Doh

Madine is a prick  Thumb down  and he isnt david hirst and he isnt a striker that can  score more than 12 or 13 goals in this league anyway !!  so he wont be needed either under a new manager  Thumb down

Nuhui is worth that last 20 minutes of a game when we are in the lead to buy time and get under the ribs of any opponent or the first 60 minutes of a game when we are playing away to a much better team to do exactly the same  Thumb up  he isnt a goalscorer though , so again we wont be needing him either  Thumb down

Bus is new we cant judge untill at least 10 games in ? but if that is 10 games under sg then the same may apply as does to may above  Thumb up

laverey is the best talent of any of these mentioned he can take a man on as well as score he can also pass and get stuck in  Thumb up he flowered with Sg though and then flopped after his injury  Doh


so for me its laverey  bus and may deserve another chance under a new manager  Thumb up if  they cant cut it under lets say 10 games or so !!  then its bye bye  Thumb down  

We have to base all our dreams on facts !! fact 1 sg will get the sack  Thumb up fact 2 keane will be either sold to a premiership club or  Thumb up given a chance at least in the manutd pre season circus  of japan or america or wherever the **** the clowns will be performing  Whistle fact 3 nuhui is shit  Whistle and fact 4 bus still hasnt played yet as such ? and fact 5 madine is a **** disgracefull little **** chav  Angry  who has shown no **** signs of being worth it anyway ? hes scored for poxy f ucking teams infront of poxy **** stands ? he bottled his chance against Mancity and he has bottled other chances in smaller games before that he has had !! although he has had few !! he isnt all that  Thumb down

May & Keane both had rows with SG on Saturday. I doubt that SG will give May a chance any time soon & Keane (who will be looking for a club in the summer) won't sign for us if SG is manager.

We have already fallen out with Chelsea (dropping Baker from squad) and Arsenal (playing Afobe on wing) so won't be getting decent loan players from them again. I guess that the way SG is treating Keane will get back to Man Utd and getting their loan players might be more difficult in the future.

The reason we have to play Keane is that he is the most likely to score & we need points if we want to stay up. May will score but needs a decent chance. We get rid of Antonio when he arrives so he gets no service. As soon as we get McGugan to give service, May is dropped.

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We definitely need a winger in who can provide service. We then need a striker who can score should the current ones still be flops
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(22-02-2015, 23:25)peiowl Wrote: SCO. I have to differ with you here. "May has been just as disappointing as Nuhiu." May has been disappointing, granted. But, Nuhiu had all last season with the club and has been given chance after chance this season. May, on the other hand, it's his first season with the club. Yes, we all wish May had performed better, but to place him in the same category as Nuhiu is stretching it. Madine, as has been pointed out, has not been allowed to show what he can do by SG.

Yes Nuhiu had all of last season, but it didn't stop Wednesday fans saying he was shite last season at this time. I would venture that Nuhiu probably did better in his first season than May has in his, either way they have both been pretty shite!!! Also May has only come from Scotland, he shouldn't be struggling with the language or culture like Nuhiu had to learn, so I would cut him less slack anyway.
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