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Scot Cup semi-final: Hibs v the Scot footie bemoaners, Sat 31 Oct, KO 5.00pm
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(31-10-2020, 23:39)0762 Wrote: FT 1-2 (after ET) and IMO Hibs "throw away" an opp to get to a Scot Cup final in a game that was attractive to any impartial viewer but losing to a bunch of Scottish footie bemoaners who even managed to cheat their way into the final and should be nowhere near that Hampden final whatsoever if the word "deserving" was gonna be used!! So where did it go wrong? Well, for one thing Nisbet had a nightmare of a match from a striking point of view - I did not want to read about any Craig Gordon miracle show whatsoever!!! Hibs have history when it comes to this kinda hard luck story with Gordon attached to it and you must take the scoring opps when they arise!! That great Gordon save from Gordon? You "bury" a great cross baw like that one - the goalie disnae get near it if you have the "bottle" to score it properly!! Nisbet's pk miss? Well what happened to "hard and low" on a wet pitch and with a wet baw??? In the lad's defence, I gather his dad passed away in the past week - absolute shit for any young lad and I wonder if he should've played at all? As for Doidge - how can he not head a baw properly???? Enough good ammunition provided and, just like in previous matches, he can't do it often enough!! Now lets move on to the refereeing of this match!! From about 10 mins onwards I had to question Golum's shit "stop-start" way of officiating a match - right up Hearts street btw because that is the way they play!!!!! Thumb down Foul after foul after foul - f###### awful refereeing!!! And then I'm observing a stonewall pk denied Hibs when Halkett clearly hauled down Doidgy in the pen box and Colum clearly decided to ignore it, leave the decision to a goal line ref named Madden, a Rangers supporting c### who was never gonna give Hibs this pen - unbelievable in the fact the bbc dwelled on Boyly's attempt to get a pk on their bye-line but then conceded later that there was no dubiety that this was a pk!!!!! Thumb down Then, to "rub salt into the wounds", Golum awards that "nothing pen" against McGinn in extra time with 9 mins remaining - a clear dive, a cheat's desperate simulation to win a Scottish Cup semi-final and he has got away with it - YEP: YOU, YOU CHEATING HEARTS BASTARD WHITE!!! AND YOU KNOW IT!!! What reputable ref would ever give this kinda crucial pk award in such a big, well-contested match with 9 mins remaining anyway???????????? And with a goal line ref assistant who must have seen this "dive" head on from his standing position behind the goal - why no comment/interference in the same way that most Euro refs would do it!!!!! I'm totally stumped how two ref officials in decent positions could get this wrong!!!! Was it a match fix to get Hearts into a final?????? I'd like to ask Bobby Madden that question after showing him the video replay of Halkett hauling down Doidgy!! Lastly, I wanna make a brief comment re Jack Ross's end of match shaking of hands etc as though nothing had happened!!!!!?????? Give me Neil Lennon any day of the week if when dealing with a highly questionable big game result like this one - MAKE A SCENE JACK, KICK UP F#### WITH THESE REF OFFICIALS OR IS THE FOOTIE NOT THAT SERIOUS ANY MORE, so just walk way eh!!! They'll be absolutely smirking after pulling off another cheating scandal that, from my Hibs perspective, they still seem to get away with down the years and it somehow doesn't "balance out" in the way that it should as my belief always lies with having the better players and instilling a high motivation to win these matches. We did it in 2016 and we should've been playing in another final again although I will say there was never any chance of Hibs winning it!! The same applies to these cheating c#### who Hibs really made them look better than they actually are - both flanks dodgy as well as their CB positions and Celtic and the Dons will be "clasping their hands" in anticipation to try to reach that final because there will be only one winner and it aint gonna be Hearts who I hope are actually given an absolute "pumping" for cheating their way to a Scottish Cup final that they should never have been near. They are good at this shit and it would be nice to see a retrospective punishment at least meted out by the SFA ref panel for simulation and highlight the fact that was a f###### disgraceful no pen that should've been identified by competent ref officials!!!

Boy oh boy you're really hurting Tynie- I feel your pain. ????. Usual "unbiased " match report, however, you failed to include Hibs offside equaliser- just saying
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(01-11-2020, 02:34)hibeejim21 Wrote: We've seen this movie before chaps, didn't take our chances and got punished for it. The referee was a joke the night though and gave 2 penalties that weren't pks and tried to 'even it up', whilst denying us a stonewaller earlier.  Craig Gordon was probably the main difference the day ...that and a shocking penalty from Nisbet.

I know its harsh to criticise JR with the form we've had this season but too often in the big games we haven't looked totally 'on it', haven't made the right changes. Hertz on the other hand made 2 good changes and we just didn't know how to deal with it.

They really are a bunch of dirty, anti-football cloggers but we knew that already. How I would love to snap that c*nt Halliday. Collum let them away with absolute murder the day.

Im consoling myself that at least I didnt have to get back home from Hampden after that.

Delighted that Celtic comfortably won 2-0 this afternoon v a very disappointing Dons side who have lost 8 x consecutive cup ties against the Hoops at Hampden Park mainly because this means a probable much stronger Celtic team will take on Hearts by the time that final is played and, make no mistake, will potentially thrash them this time. Rogic and Christie superb in this match, a level of footie that seriously couldn't be touched by either team in yesterday's cup semi-final!! Footie is a collective sport and Hearts are definitely short of so many good players who they would need to acquire in order to get anywhere near Celtic btw now chasing another record quadruple treble. Here's hoping it materialises as predicted because this bunch of Scottish footie bemoaners definitely deserve sweet f### all again esp after all their shit from the summer up to that "fix" of a result yesterday.
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You really are quite funny Tiny, in a sort of peculiar way. You are such a bitter, twisted wee man , full of rage, anger and hatred that beggars belief. Out of interest, who"fixed" the result
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(01-11-2020, 00:56)1Wattie Wrote: Pretty usual story when it comes to playing Hearts, we just don't have the killer touch when we are in a position to put the game to bed. Out fans are once again stunned by a Willie Colum decision that killed us off, White took a dive and conned the ref - or is it a case that the fear is just ****e at his job.
We need to refocus quickly because the season still gives us a lot to play for including the very realistic chance to get back into Europe.
GGTTH

What about Madden's role in this shit as well Wattie? This AR, a Rangers man as most of us are well aware btw, has faced Halkett clearly "hauling down" Doidge in an unimpaired view from the Hearts byeline, a distance of about 8 metres!!! At the time, on the bbc coverage, Mikey Stewart tried to dismiss it and then conceded that it was a stonewall pk after looking at the video rerun of the incident and nobody argued with that assessment later on either. Madden didn't miss the incident - HE CHOSE TO IGNORE IT AS DID COLUM WHO WOULD'VE RESPONDED IF MADDEN CONFIRMED THE PK OFFENCE BY HALKETT - F###### OUTRAGEOUS!! Also how did the AR/linesman miss it????? I'm not a great fan of VAR but I've finally conceded that we need this provision in these kinda matches in order to overrrule rank rotten refereeing decisions that have again denigrated a Scot Cup semi-final!!!! Thumb down This is not the first time that this failing has happened in this particular cup tournament (eg the famous Meekings incident v Celtic in a previous Scot Cup semi-final is a classic example of a triangulation of 3 x SFA ref officials bizarrely all missing a ICT player "arming"/handling a certain goal bound shot from Griffiths on the ICT goal line and avoiding a straight red card and a pk) and it won't be the last unless this kinda mitigating action is finally brokered by the SFA as deployed by other bigger footie authorities who have finally conceded to the failure in identifying poor/wrong ref decisions, very dangerous tackles and cheating/simulation that would've been definitely identified in the White incident with appropriate punishment to follow. As for Hibs pushing to gain a place in Euro footie? I still see this achievement as providing nothing other than watching a few attractive footie matches without progressing to the next group stage. That is a common theme that applies to the fortunes of participating Scot footie clubs outwith Celtic and Rangers and the common factor in Euro footie progress is having dollops of money. In Celtic's case they have more than enough money even though they have incurred a loss of £13m this year for obvious reasons. In Rangers case they have borrowed themselves, and operated profusely, to possible financial oblivion and that predicament will become more apparent in the months ahead - they are not in a "good place" financially and that is the worst kept secret in Scot footie!! I agree that Hibs need to "push on" positively from this point - absolutely!! We are still "in a good place" and in amongst the top four places in the Scot Prem. The Hibs project continues regardless and JR must try to lift spirits in a decent team - one unlucky result does not make Hibs a bad team and the manager must emphasise that fact and also "learn from it". IMO we wanna return quickly to the "big occasions", the ones that matter, and let these players gain more experience that will stand them in good stead for the future. That ambition is what Ron Gordon was talking about earlier in the year and the manager and players need to embrace that vision. Btw I empathise with Bouncinghibees sentiment that Hibs need to effectively "toughen up" but I'd say Hibs have been deploying a "boot room culture" for a while with notable Hibs legends contributing to that change in attitude and belief. The signs are already there that Hibs are doing OK but they will improve further - a case of "patience is a virtue" and we need to "push on" with it although it will take time to come to full fruition. Personally I'd make Ryan Porteous Hibs captain sooner rather than later as part of this new strategy that will definitely "come good" eventually.
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(02-11-2020, 17:06)0762 Wrote:
(01-11-2020, 00:56)1Wattie Wrote: Pretty usual story when it comes to playing Hearts, we just don't have the killer touch when we are in a position to put the game to bed. Out fans are once again stunned by a Willie Colum decision that killed us off, White took a dive and conned the ref - or is it a case that the fear is just ****e at his job.
We need to refocus quickly because the season still gives us a lot to play for including the very realistic chance to get back into Europe.
GGTTH

What about Madden's role in this shit as well Wattie? This AR, a Rangers man as most of us are well aware btw, has faced Halkett clearly "hauling down" Doidge in an unimpaired view from the Hearts byeline, a distance of about 8 metres!!! At the time, on the bbc coverage, Mikey Stewart tried to dismiss it and then conceded that it was a stonewall pk after looking at the video rerun of the incident and nobody argued with that assessment later on either. Madden didn't miss the incident - HE CHOSE TO IGNORE IT AS DID COLUM WHO WOULD'VE RESPONDED IF MADDEN CONFIRMED THE PK OFFENCE BY HALKETT - F###### OUTRAGEOUS!! Also how did the AR/linesman miss it????? I'm not a great fan of VAR but I've finally conceded that we need this provision in these kinda matches in order to overrrule rank rotten refereeing decisions that have again denigrated a Scot Cup semi-final!!!! Thumb down This is not the first time that this failing has happened in this particular cup tournament (eg the famous Meekings incident v Celtic in a  previous Scot Cup semi-final is a classic example of a triangulation of 3 x SFA ref officials bizarrely all missing a ICT player "arming"/handling a certain goal bound shot from Griffiths on the ICT goal line and avoiding a straight red card and a pk) and it won't be the last unless this kinda mitigating action is finally brokered by the SFA as deployed by other bigger footie authorities who have finally conceded to the failure in identifying poor/wrong ref decisions, very dangerous tackles and cheating/simulation that would've been definitely identified in the White incident with appropriate punishment to follow. As for Hibs pushing to gain a place in Euro footie? I still see this achievement as providing nothing other than watching a few attractive footie matches without progressing to the next group stage. That is a common theme that applies to the fortunes of participating Scot footie clubs outwith Celtic and Rangers and the common factor in Euro footie progress is having dollops of money. In Celtic's case they have more than enough money even though they have incurred a loss of £13m this year for obvious reasons. In Rangers case they have borrowed themselves, and operated profusely,  to possible financial oblivion and that predicament will become more apparent in the months ahead - they are not in a "good place" financially and that is the worst kept secret in Scot footie!! I agree that Hibs need to "push on" positively from this point - absolutely!! We are still "in a good place" and in amongst the top four places in the Scot Prem. The Hibs project continues regardless and JR must try to lift spirits in a decent team - one unlucky result does not make Hibs a bad team and the manager must emphasise that fact and also "learn from it". IMO we wanna return quickly to the "big occasions", the ones that matter, and let these players gain more experience that will stand them in good stead for the future. That ambition is what Ron Gordon was talking about earlier in the year and the manager and players need to embrace that vision. Btw I empathise with Bouncinghibees sentiment that Hibs need to effectively "toughen up" but I'd say Hibs have been deploying a "boot room culture" for a while with notable Hibs legends contributing to that change in attitude and belief. The signs are already there that Hibs are doing OK but they will improve further - a case of "patience is a virtue" and we need to "push on" with it although it will take time to come to full fruition. Personally I'd make Ryan Porteous Hibs captain sooner rather than later as part of this new strategy that will definitely "come good" eventually.

Why the feck would we need VAR when you're about Tynie, you seem to get all the decisions correct in your warped mind??
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(01-11-2020, 02:34)hibeejim21 Wrote: We've seen this movie before chaps, didn't take our chances and got punished for it. The referee was a joke the night though and gave 2 penalties that weren't pks and tried to 'even it up', whilst denying us a stonewaller earlier.  Craig Gordon was probably the main difference the day ...that and a shocking penalty from Nisbet.

I know its harsh to criticise JR with the form we've had this season but too often in the big games we haven't looked totally 'on it', haven't made the right changes. Hertz on the other hand made 2 good changes and we just didn't know how to deal with it.

They really are a bunch of dirty, anti-football cloggers but we knew that already. How I would love to snap that c*nt Halliday. Collum let them away with absolute murder the day.

Im consoling myself that at least I didnt have to get back home from Hampden after that.

The great irony in these kinda matches is the fact that no fans attend them and I've already previously commented on a number of occasions to friends and family members that this is "surreal footie" that we are watching during a pandemic and, in a lotta cases, it is "footie in an echo chamber". Even for any trophy winners it is the same surreal, artificial, scenario with no fans to really add to the occasion and that is a fact. Some of the live games in England and in Euro footie are actually in the "same boat" played in empty stadia, many of them absolutely boring "bounce matches" and I must say I don't watch a lotta these live matches for a full 90 mins. As described previously - surreal and different! And it aint gonna change any time soon!! Of course, the implications for many footie clubs could well be existential ones!!
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