If we did get rid

Dancingwilldoit · 16-10-2018, 13:11

Not saying that its time for him to go (yet) but if we did get rid of MA who would be a good appointment. Who do we think is crazy enough other than MA to polish the turd that is CFC and sit between owner and fans taking all the crap with limited funds available?

We were on a downward spiral and last season some of us thought we may even drop again. Currently we are 2 points clear of 4th from bottom. For all his faults MA had a good start but we seem to have lost our way a bit (to say the least). 3 draws in the last 3 games is a lot better than we have been doing and might just give us a bit of a platform to build on.
Having watched the game Sat our confidence looks shot to pieces. One win though could change all that, on the other hand one more defeat is just another nail in the coffin.

For what its worth I honestly cant think of anybody who could come here and do a job for us and I dread to think of who Carson or DA would come up with.

So my conclusion is stick with what we have, but if we slide into the bottom 4 and are still there come Christmas changes will be needed.
Can anybody honestly imagine Dave Allen saying " Sorry I got it wrong, Martin Allen was my appointment and I take full responsibility for the mess we are in"?

SaltergateBorn · 16-10-2018, 13:35

Personally, Dancing, I can`t think of anybody at all who I`d have confidence in to come in and turn us around at the drop of a hat. That being the case, I`m with you; I think we have to stick with who we have for the time being. If Xmas is the watershed for you, that`s fine - but bear in mind the financial implications of paying off MA with nearly 2 years left on his contract. We would then be even more strapped for cash than we are now and we`d have another set of players coming and going through the revolving door; basically, back to square 1 and start all over again. Myself, I reckon that would guarantee relegation - no matter what position we`re in at Xmas.

I still think MA will get things moving in the right direction. As you say, it will only take 1 good win the confidence starts to come back and they will look a different team. I actually think we`re starting to get there already away from home; it`s at the Proact that they seem still to be totally bereft of confidence. (Perhaps some of our `supporters` might like to think on that and ask themselves why that might be.) Apart from the fact that I`ve decided to go, I wouldn`t be surprised to see us get a draw on Saturday.

My answer to the question you ask at the end of your post? Err, nio.

Devongone · 16-10-2018, 16:25

Luke Garrard (Boreham Wood), Jamie Vermiglio (Chorley), Marcus Law (Kettering) ...... from non-league .................
and I'd add Ritchie Humphreys or Kevin Davies if it had to be someone with a name, because none of our fans had heard of the other three.

But we can't keep just changing managers can we? But we can't just keep not-winning either ..........

MA appears directionless. Two weeks ago Levi Amantchi is brought on as sub. The following week he is dropped from the bench - now what kind of message is that to a young player? But hey take a look at the website - teenager signs first contract gets a desultory four lines and no picture. What kind of idiot is running this show?

bluepooch · (This post was last modified: 16-10-2018, 19:51 by bluepooch.)

Of course there are people out there who can do a better job that Allen...its finding them thats the problem .Thats no excuse not to try and change a crap situation .Although things have improved slightly of late ,personally if we dont pull away from the relegation zone, ie we lose more games in the next few weeks ,he should go.
DA should sell up of course, but we have had good managers under him so why not again ?.We cant keep the status quo if it means another relegation with dire football .We need to go back to playing attractive attacking football and be entertained .Watford arent afraid to keep changing managers to get it right ,we should adopt that policy .

Dancingwilldoit · 16-10-2018, 21:28

Dev, don't doubt the names you mention are good managers but that wasn't really the question. Would they take on the poisoned challis of working for Uncle Dave?

**spireitematt** · 17-10-2018, 00:10

I would give it a go. I seem to do pretty well in the National League North and in the National League on Football Manager by building teams with no money and getting them into L2.

Devongone · (This post was last modified: 17-10-2018, 13:22 by Devongone.)

Well Dancing, Marcus Law would jump at it, Vermiglio would be more concerned with loyalty to Chorley as he played for them, Luke Garrard - well if he'd come north we have massively more potential than Boreham Wood. Would Kev still give us a go after being rejected ..... dunno ...... would DA be a step too far for him dunno? As for The Hump, well he'd ask his mate Chris Turner ....... but he did win a game for us as manager.

It seems the wrong reason to stick with a manager - that you think your club is so shit no-one decent would give you a go! I think the stadium, the potential crowd, fairly-recent success and the difficulty of getting that first foot on the managerial ladder would still get us plenty of applicants. England play internationals at our ground ...........

MA is doing a measurably crap job at the moment, but he has fairly recently proved he can win this league ......... and the main objection to him is dinosaur football which doesn't actually exist.

Kev at Southport got rid of ten of the eleven players who started in his first game ......... Only one of my choices, who might be gettable, has succeeded in management at our level.

I'm still a bit dubious about Spirematt's suitability for the position - the unreliability of the past few weeks must count against him!

**spireitematt** · 17-10-2018, 17:22

(17-10-2018, 13:19)Devongone Wrote: I'm still a bit dubious about Spirematt's suitability for the position - the unreliability of the past few weeks must count against him!

The job would have my undivided attention Dev. I would also hire you as a scout.

Devongone · 17-10-2018, 18:46

Matt, you've impressed me even more than Gary Caldwell impressed Partick Thistle. Start next week!

**spireitematt** · (This post was last modified: 06-11-2018, 13:50 by spireitematt.)

Here you go Dev. Currently My Football Manager History.

Football Manager 2018:

Chesterfield F.C 2017-2019
⦁ 2017/2018 League 2 Champions
⦁ 2018/2019 League 1 Promotion
⦁ 2019 resigned as manager to take over Liverpool

Liverpool 2019 - Present
⦁ 16th in the League table when I took charge and led them to 7th in the final league table
⦁ Led them to the Semi-finals of the Europa League

Football Manager 2013:

Stockport County 2012-2013
⦁ Sacked after 4 wins, 2 draws and 6 losses

F.C Halifax 2013-2015
⦁ Rebuilt the entire squad on free transfers and loanees
⦁ 2013/2014 National League North Playoff winners
⦁ Lead them to the FA Cup 3rd round twice

Sligo Rovers 2015 - 2021
⦁ 2015/16, 2016/17, 2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21 League Of Ireland Champions
⦁ 2015/16, 2016/17, 2017/18, 2018/19, 2019/20, 2020/21 FAI Cups
⦁ All Ireland Cups 2016/2017, 2018/19
⦁ Irish League Cup 2019
⦁ Qualified for the Champions League group stages four times, furthest reached L16 in 2019/2020
⦁ Made the quarter-finals of the Europa League in 2018/2019
⦁ 2021 resigned as manager to take over Chesterfield FC

Chesterfield FC 2021 - 2028
⦁ 15th in L1 when I took over and lead them to 5th playoff spot
⦁ 2020/21 L1 Playoff winners
⦁ 2021/2022 Championship Champions
⦁ 2022/2023 Finished 12th in the Premier League
⦁ 2022/2023 FA Cup Champions (beat Manchester United 5-4 on penalties after drawing 1-1)
⦁ 2023 FA Community Shield Runners Up
⦁ 2023/2024 finished 12th in the Premier League
⦁ 2023/2024 FA Cup Champions (beat Stoke City 3-1 AET)
⦁ 2024 FA Community Shield Runners Up
⦁ 2023/2024 Europa League Runners Up (Lost to Jose Mourinho's Real Madrid 4-1)
⦁ 2024/2025 finished 11th in the Premier League
⦁ 2025/2026 Premier League Champions
⦁ 2025/2026 League Cup Champions
⦁ 2026 FA Community Shield Runners Up
⦁ 2026/2027 Finished 7th in the Premier League
⦁ 2026/2027 League Cup runners Up
⦁ 2026/2027 Champions League Winners
⦁ 2027 FIFA Club World Cup Champions
⦁ 2027 UEFA Super Cup Champions
⦁ 2027/2028 Premier League Champions
⦁ 2027/2028 League Cup Runners Up
⦁ 2027/2028 Champions League Winners
⦁ 2028 UEFA Super Cup Champions
⦁ 2028 Resigned as Chesterfield manager

Stalybridge Celtic FC 2028-2029
⦁ 2028/2029 National League North Playoff Winners

Stoke City 2029-2031
⦁ Saved Stoke City from relegation and led them to a mid-table finish
⦁ 2030-2031 League Cup Champions

England 2031-2034
⦁ Helped England qualify for Euro 2032
⦁ 2032 Euro Champions
⦁ Qualified for World Cup 2034
⦁ 2034 World Cup Champions