[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

I agree about Jerome Thomas; incredibly, he was the last natural winger we had who was capable of beating a man. For two and a half years we've laboured without one, despite it being obvious even during the latter months of JT's time with us that we needed a new option (remember us going after Szabolcs Huszti in January 2012?)

I've struggled to believe that Irvine doesn't see or understand that we need a wide threat when it's such a basic and obvious problem, but I'm now hoping that it really is stubbornness on his part, because at least stubbornness can be changed. Because if we've arsed up another transfer window - if it turns out Varela's a crock, Blanco's useless and Samaras can't be arsed - then we really are monumentally knobbed.

[Stairs]

When JP gets to work on Monday and read his emails his head will be spinning,

Around 99% Of westbrom.com are mailing him about a certain Mr Irvine and his style of play,

Lets join em  

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Re: Alan Irvine
« Reply #4370 on: Today at 05:32:47 PM »
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Quote from: hardtobeat on Today at 04:41:37 PM
if i knew his e mail address i would!!

You have to email
enquiries@wbafc.co.uk  

This is the general email address but the email definitely gets forwarded on to JP as I have received letters directly from him in the past

Sent mine this morning

[Luke_East_Baggie]

Who would everyone play on the wing?

5 main other options

Sess wide: no, much better centrally and Irvine wouldn't start him there

Samaras: not seen much but worth a try

Varela: great record but surely not even making the bench for a reason ( what's happened with injuries? so unclear)

Blanco: seemed ok in his bits maybe worthwhile.

Gamboa: doesn't see himself as a winger and doesn't take his man on enough imo but good delivery and pace.

So I'd probably have Samaras left and Varela on the right (can he play there?). Samaras has a decent chance of a start soon imo (since he has actually made the bench) but the other 4 look unlikely.

I think, THINK. I'd be tempted by Sessegnon wide. Firstly, I agree that he is (or can be) effective in the wide role. He is our only pace though, and someone like Dorrans (although been poor lately) or even Brunt / Berahino / Samaras could play behind the striker just to make some decent passes, either to the top man, or out wide. I'd go Gamboa behind Sess then and scare the living daylights out of them. That's a very risk strategy though, and I very much doubt we would go for it.

It's going to have to be Varela and / Or Blanco.

[WBA-Josh]

At PSG when Antoine Kombouaré was in charge, Sessegnon was predominantly used as a right winger in a 4-4-2 which became a 4-2-2-2 when they had possession. When Kombouaré changed to a 4-2-3-1 after the signing of Pastore at the start of the 2010/2011 season, Sessegnon was then either continued out wide or used centrally but he didn't start much. He became the impact player off the bench. I also think Sunderland used him on the right side of midfield at times as well.

We could use Sessegnon in a wide role on the right side with Varela on the left side and then James Morrison in the hole behind one of the strikers. It would be a similar sort of set-up to that of Clarke's early days when it was Odemwingie on the right, Gera on the left and Morrison in the hole.

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Mulumbu-Gardner
Sessegnon-Morrison-Varela
Ideye/Berahino

The above could be a good team to play. We would have the pace and creativity out wide with the hard-working and intelligent Morrison in the attacking midfield position. Morrison will give the lone striker plenty of support like he did with Long and Lukaku, will control the tempo of the game and will give our 5 man midfield an even balance between attack and defence.

Sessegnon and Varela out wide will then have the pace and creativity to hurt the opposition and with Berahino or Ideye leading the line, we will have a striker who will score goals and will make intelligent runs in the channels which will pull the opposition defenders out of position.

[santasabaggie]

I agree about Jerome Thomas; incredibly, he was the last natural winger we had who was capable of beating a man.  For two and a half years we've laboured without one, despite it being obvious even during the latter months of JT's time with us that we needed a new option (remember us going after Szabolcs Huszti in January 2012?)

I've struggled to believe that Irvine doesn't see or understand that we need a wide threat when it's such a basic and obvious problem, but I'm now hoping that it really is stubbornness on his part, because at least stubbornness can be changed.  Because if we've arsed up another transfer window - if it turns out Varela's a crock, Blanco's useless and Samaras can't be arsed - then we really are monumentally knobbed.

The most alarming thing is,Irvine was a winger in his playing days and a good one at that as far as i remember.Yet he seems totally bereft of any wing playing ideas as a manager.........................will he be gone for Christmas? can't see where the next points are coming from......................

[drewks]

.........Because if we've arsed up another transfer window - if it turns out Varela's a crock, Blanco's useless and Samaras can't be arsed - then we really are monumentally knobbed.

Beautiful use of the English language Ska'd.....love it!

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We could use Sessegnon in a wide role on the right side with Varela on the left side and then James Morrison in the hole behind one of the strikers. It would be a similar sort of set-up to that of Clarke's early days when it was Odemwingie on the right, Gera on the left and Morrison in the hole.

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Mulumbu-Gardner
Sessegnon-Morrison-Varela
Ideye/Berahino

The above could be a good team to play. We would have the pace and creativity out wide with the hard-working and intelligent Morrison in the attacking midfield position. Morrison will give the lone striker plenty of support like he did with Long and Lukaku, will control the tempo of the game and will give our 5 man midfield an even balance between attack and defence.

Sessegnon and Varela out wide will then have the pace and creativity to hurt the opposition and with Berahino or Ideye leading the line, we will have a striker who will score goals and will make intelligent runs in the channels which will pull the opposition defenders out of position.

Like that alot Josh. IMO this is by far Mozza's best position and as you say he's got the experience, talent and intelligence to play in this specialist area....can also score a few too playing in a more advanced role.
IMO we're wasting his best skills by playing him in a deeper, grafting type of midfield role.

JOSH FOR HEAD COACH!!        

[BaggieMan]

Trouble is lads.....
It will be the same old line-up

[BBB]

Samaras when on the left, always tried to get the ball on his right foot - so on the right wing for me.

[Luke_East_Baggie]

How did things go in the "wide" roles last night? Did Irvine put Sess wide (See my post on yesterday dinner time on this thread) Sorry missed the game last night - How did Anichebe play and Ideye and Berahino and Varela?

[Baggie_One]

Foster on the "wide" role working ok, nobody saw Ted playing that tactic. Cheeky