[Salopbaggie]

I think I am missing something here, but what?

We play Arsenal tomorrow and the Sham Tuesday and we hear it's not fair they have an extra days rest.  This is something you hear from every team in the league, but when you look at the reality, is it really that bad?

We currently sit second in the league (after 20 games) for ground covered at 1247 Km  or an average of 124.7 km for each of our 10 outfield players.  This seems accurate if you look at our top individual Rodriguez  who has covered 125 Km (5th in the league).  If you divide the average 124.7 down that comes to 6.235 km per player, per game.

Now I understand that they do this at a high tempo, but something does not feel right when you consider Blind Dave did 7 marathons, on 7 continents, in 7 days, running 295.154 km

If we break that down, Dave ran for 35 hours equating to 5 hours a day or 300 minutes a day. I understand Dave was running non-stop, while "average player" would be stop and start but that does not take away from these figures.

Dave: 42 km / 300 minutes = 140 metres a minute average
"average player":   6.235 km / 90 minutes = 70 metres a minute average

So not only was Dave covering twice the distance every minute, he was doing it for 300 minutes instead of 90 minutes. He also did it for 7 days on the trot, on a total of only 20 hours sleep and for all those overseas internationals who have to be rested after playing abroad, he also flew over 35,000 miles over those 7 days.

So what am I missing about these professional athletes being so tired if they have to play 2 games in 3 days?

[Amelia Chaffinch]

SSN said yesterday that West Ham were up against it because of this very issue. They may actually have 3 in 5 or 6 days. So what?

[Arcane Astral Aeons]

lets scrap the christmas/new year fixtures
and let these overpaid sacks of horse manure
eat drink and get so unfit that they wont be able to play again until February

[talkSAFT]

I think I am missing something here, but what?

We play Arsenal tomorrow and the Sham Tuesday and we hear it's not fair they have an extra days rest.  This is something you hear from every team in the league, but when you look at the reality, is it really that bad?

We currently sit second in the league (after 20 games) for ground covered at 1247 Km  or an average of 124.7 km for each of our 10 outfield players.  This seems accurate if you look at our top individual Rodriguez  who has covered 125 Km (5th in the league).  If you divide the average 124.7 down that comes to 6.235 km per player, per game.

Now I understand that they do this at a high tempo, but something does not feel right when you consider Blind Dave did 7 marathons, on 7 continents, in 7 days, running 295.154 km

If we break that down, Dave ran for 35 hours equating to 5 hours a day or 300 minutes a day. I understand Dave was running non-stop, while "average player" would be stop and start but that does not take away from these figures.

Dave:                           42 km / 300 minutes = 140 metres a minute average
"average player":      6.235 km / 90 minutes = 70 metres a minute average

So not only was Dave covering twice the distance every minute, he was doing it for 300 minutes instead of 90 minutes.  He also did it for 7 days on the trot, on a total of only 20 hours sleep and for all those overseas internationals who have to be rested after playing abroad, he also flew over 35,000 miles over those 7 days.

So what am I missing about these professional athletes being so tired if they have to play 2 games in 3 days?

...and we're talking about a bloke in his 50s! Dave Heeley s/b knighted. When I think of some of the twats who have been knighted (eg our other own Lenny Henry) I really despair.

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

I think I am missing something here, but what?

We play Arsenal tomorrow and the Sham Tuesday and we hear it's not fair they have an extra days rest.  This is something you hear from every team in the league, but when you look at the reality, is it really that bad?

We currently sit second in the league (after 20 games) for ground covered at 1247 Km  or an average of 124.7 km for each of our 10 outfield players.  This seems accurate if you look at our top individual Rodriguez  who has covered 125 Km (5th in the league).  If you divide the average 124.7 down that comes to 6.235 km per player, per game.

Now I understand that they do this at a high tempo, but something does not feel right when you consider Blind Dave did 7 marathons, on 7 continents, in 7 days, running 295.154 km

If we break that down, Dave ran for 35 hours equating to 5 hours a day or 300 minutes a day. I understand Dave was running non-stop, while "average player" would be stop and start but that does not take away from these figures.

Dave:                           42 km / 300 minutes = 140 metres a minute average
"average player":      6.235 km / 90 minutes = 70 metres a minute average

So not only was Dave covering twice the distance every minute, he was doing it for 300 minutes instead of 90 minutes.  He also did it for 7 days on the trot, on a total of only 20 hours sleep and for all those overseas internationals who have to be rested after playing abroad, he also flew over 35,000 miles over those 7 days.

So what am I missing about these professional athletes being so tired if they have to play 2 games in 3 days?

...and we're talking about a bloke in his 50s! Dave Heeley s/b knighted. When I think of some of the twats who have been knighted (eg our other own Lenny Henry) I really despair.

I agree Blind Dave should be recognised, but you really don't think the charity work Lenny Henry's done through the decades is also worthy of an honour?

[Dingle-Dingle]

I think I am missing something here, but what?

We play Arsenal tomorrow and the Sham Tuesday and we hear it's not fair they have an extra days rest.  This is something you hear from every team in the league, but when you look at the reality, is it really that bad?

We currently sit second in the league (after 20 games) for ground covered at 1247 Km  or an average of 124.7 km for each of our 10 outfield players.  This seems accurate if you look at our top individual Rodriguez  who has covered 125 Km (5th in the league).  If you divide the average 124.7 down that comes to 6.235 km per player, per game.

Now I understand that they do this at a high tempo, but something does not feel right when you consider Blind Dave did 7 marathons, on 7 continents, in 7 days, running 295.154 km

If we break that down, Dave ran for 35 hours equating to 5 hours a day or 300 minutes a day. I understand Dave was running non-stop, while "average player" would be stop and start but that does not take away from these figures.

Dave:                           42 km / 300 minutes = 140 metres a minute average
"average player":      6.235 km / 90 minutes = 70 metres a minute average

So not only was Dave covering twice the distance every minute, he was doing it for 300 minutes instead of 90 minutes.  He also did it for 7 days on the trot, on a total of only 20 hours sleep and for all those overseas internationals who have to be rested after playing abroad, he also flew over 35,000 miles over those 7 days.

So what am I missing about these professional athletes being so tired if they have to play 2 games in 3 days?

...and we're talking about a bloke in his 50s! Dave Heeley s/b knighted. When I think of some of the twats who have been knighted (eg our other own Lenny Henry) I really despair.

I agree Blind Dave should be recognised, but you really don't think the charity work Lenny Henry's done through the decades is also worthy of an honour?

Dave also likes a couple of pints of Guiness too. Plus his dog Seamus is a nutter. DD

[talkSAFT]

I agree Blind Dave should be recognised, but you really don't think the charity work Lenny Henry's done through the decades is also worthy of an honour?

In which case every Charity worker s/b knighted. Henry has got the cushion of being wealthy enough to give his time (whatever that is). Some celebs say they "work tirelessly" for their charidy when all they do is sign 100 letters a week. I might have Henry wrong, but I bet he doesn't do as much as those who devote their week to working in Charity Shops for example. And I can't believe he's got a knighthood for his 'comedy' when there are dozens funnier than him.

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

But of course, there are tons of folk just as wealthy as Henry, or even richer, who wouldn't lift a finger for charity. Many of them probably have knighthoods too. I'm not sure you can put a number on the people who've had their lives changed for the better by Comic Relief in the last thirty years, but it has to stretch into the tens, maybe hundreds of thousands. I mean, if you want to knock him for his comedy or his theatrical aspirations or even his shit Premier Inn adverts then I'd probably agree, but it just seems a bizarre gripe to downplay his charitable work which has made such a genuine, material difference.

And I say that as someone who's given up more than a few weekends in my time to shake a tin on some cold street, without any recognition for it. I know I could never do what Lenny Henry's done, even if I had the wealth, because it takes more than just your time. (Same goes for Blind Dave, hence why they both deserve an honour, and I don't).

[talkSAFT]

Ska'd, it was a cynical throwaway comparison that I made regarding Sir Lenny. He was the first name that came to mind (esp with the Albion connection).
From my angle (being particularly cynical in my old age) I see ALL "Charidy" Celebs as people who think the "Charidy Worker" tag is a passport to public acclaim. So many of them (usually fading Stars, such as Sir Lenny) get pushed onto the Charidy Gameshows and such, pretending to "care passionately" about some Charidy, and don't exactly give their all to win the prize money - instead, they push their wares towards advancing their image.....job done!
Cynical of me, I know - but I read that Sir Bob Geldof (for instance) didn't really give a shit about starvation in Africa (according to other members of The Rats), but he saw the opportunity to turn from a past-it singer into a National Treasure overnight. OK, he worked damned hard for months/years to change the lives of tens/hundreds of thousands. But these Celebs are on a hiding to nothing (like those appealing for money on the adverts) - again, they get great acclaim, and a nudge towards NY Honours, just for doing a one minute ad.
I agree there are many many super-rich bastards who wouldn't lift a finger for charity, but the only trouble is we don't know who they are. Cynical me says that those who we know of that contribute £thousands should keep that information to themselves. They should do it anonymously.....but then, we'd never know who come into the good guys or bad guys category! (I'd love to hear that I was wrong, and that Geldof, Henry, Trump, etc "died penniless" because they had given all their earnings and wealth to charitable causes; or that it's no wonder that Boris Johnson chap is useless at his job - it's because he's out all night serving food to the homeless.

All-in-all I'm just a cynical old bastard - that's one Resolution gone down the toilet!
(Sorry to m/s Henry/Geldof if I might just have read fake news about them.)

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

Bob Geldof's a very different case. Even aside from the egotism (and I certainly think there's a lot more of that with him than with Lenny Henry, though that's just personal opinion), the bloke knowingly gave millions in Live Aid cash to a brutal dictator who spent it all on weaponry to kill his own starving people, despite Medecin Sans Frontieres warning him in advance what would happen if he did it. You can make the genuine argument that Geldof is morally complicit in war crimes as a result of that. I'm pretty sure that Comic Relief have always been as scrupulous as possible in their dispensation of funds, in contrast.