[spireitematt]

How on earth can anyone switch allegiance its not possible if youre a true fan .I know Buxton arent rivals but I coulodnt contemplate going to watch anyone else on a regular basis,maybe thats just me .
Dancing I don't know what you mean by writing on the wall ,Im not a happy clapper and never have been ,i give praise where I think due and criticize where I think due ,Its easy in hindsight to say we should have sacked Caldwell earlier but I always said give him time and if it didnt work after 10 games we could still have time to save our season .As I always say its no good getting rid of a manager if you dont bring anyone in to improve and I'm keeping fingers crossed that Jack can at least improve our results in time .As for the squad I still think if we play the right players we can get a team good enough to be comfortable in this division.

I don't know how anyone can switch allegiance. I go watch Buxton now and again but not every week as It's not the same going to watch Chesterfield. I like to see all Derbyshire sides do well though.

[Devongone]

Yeah switching allegiance hasn't really happened for me either.

I lived in Cheltenham for 14 years, no more than 600 yards from the ground, but hardly went. I've been to the Devon clubs. I have some affection for them, but it's nothing like Chesterfield. I suppose if I started going regularly it would grow on me and become second nature .......?  But people's lives are much bigger these days. At one time if you were born in Chesterfield the furthest you'd get was Dronny. There must be thousands of exiles like me. How do they feel? If I were left on my own down here I'd come back to Derbyshire like a shot, if only to take advantage of the difference in property prices.

I have to say I'm slightly amazed that Pooch still thinks there is a right team available from this squad to be comfortable in this division. I even struggle to pick it if I get Binnom-Williams fit, Jules and Joe Rowley AND Ricky German available and as good as he was last season when he got 11 goals in three weeks. But sometimes managers do find a new player inside a terminally unsuccessful one. For instance Bob's Board seems keen to condemn Matthew Briggs as a non-player, but he was the youngest player ever to appear in the Premier League and made an England squad in his teens. They say he can't play. Now he might be playing shit, but you're not a no-hoper if people were lining you up for a full England cap in your teens. Similarly Diego was a waste of time on Saturday, but top Italian clubs were queueing up to buy him, he played for Italy at every age group. Even after a cruciate there has to be something there. BUT when you look at our squad Jack has to find something similar inside virtually every player. With Louis Reed, he has to find that player chasing representative honours; Binnom-Williams, that's where he was too once, when he could get on a pitch; Reece Mitchell wasn't kicked out of Chelsea; Bradley Barry was player of the year at Swindon; O'Grady has been cheered for his work-rate, Gozie's goals stabilised Woking last season, Tommy is a top keeper in the EFL if he is fit, well and confident, Kristian Dennis scored a goal a game for over 60 games in the National League .............. It's just they don't fit together into a team, they don't spark each other off, and along with all the youngsters and the players I haven't mentioned they ALL seem NEEDY. There's nobody who is just ready-made, who we can say he'll got out there and just do it. He knows what the manager wants and needs from him.

Even in a poor Chesterfield side you could look at Albert Holmes and know that no winger would give him the run-around, that he'd always slide in and block a shot and that he'd always bring his heart and soul to the party. The only player vaguely like that now is Ian Evatt and he is in decline. If I could take a couple of players from Dover Athletic and stick them in front of him, for sure he'd get us through the season but we haven't got anyone like them.

Jack Lester is an intelligent man. Whether that means he is good football manager I don't know.

I know it would have been controversial but I think the point at which we should have sacked GC was after that opening league defeat. It showed exactly what the friendlies had also proved, that we hadn't built a team at all ..... BUT we were misled by the Doncaster result. So we've stumbled on through false hope and blind decency to the edge of ruin. I hope that Jack can find the best that all these players can be, but it is odds against in every individual player's case. If it were an accumulator it would make monster odds. But the hope is when some players start to perform they might drag the best out of their mates.

[bluepooch]

Tomorrow night should be a chance for Jack to look at the squad regardless of the result and should be something like this;
Anyon
Barry
Maguire
Wiseman
Flores/Briggs
Mcourt
Rowley
Wakefield
Sinnott
Mitchell
Dennis

[spireitematt]

Tomorrow night should be a chance for Jack to look at the squad regardless of the result and should be something like this;
Anyon
Barry
Maguire
Wiseman
Flores/Briggs
Mcourt
Rowley
Wakefield
Sinnott
Mitchell
Dennis

Can't see that line-up happening because the rule is you have to have 5-6 players which started in the last league game, which means you would only be allowed to make 4-5 changes. Where as in that line-up you've written there are 6 players which didn't start on Saturday.

Stupid rule I know and doesn't make sense especially when the Premier League U21 teams put out there squads.

If I was manager I would put out:

Anyon
Barry
Evatt
Wiseman
Kellett
Reed
Weir
Flores
Mitchell
Dennis
Brewster

[Devongone]

Well if it were me and Tommy is properly fit I'd play him in every game I could because goalies improve with games and he's missed a season of them ....... so .......

Lee

Barry
Maguire
Evatt
Mitchell (yes I meant that!)

Hird

Rowley
Reed
Dennis
Sinnott

Ugwu

I'd replace Ugwu with Brewster after 60 minutes.
Now we know Jules is out out out we need to try ways to make centre back work without him. And if Rotherham play any of their big forwards I think we'll need Evatt.
I'd like to see if Mitchell and Barry can make something from full back in a match that doesn't matter.

The only loaneee I'd start is Reed because he's either here for the season or we sack him. I'd expect Dennis to get up to Ugwu and then Brewster and pick up the chances their play makes.

It might be a team that gets hammered but I think we'd learn something. Possibly not to put me in charge.

[bluepooch]

The team is announced and again no Sinnott .Im hoping Jack proves me wrong but I think I'm a good judge of a player and this is not the team I would have picked tonight .

[Dancingwilldoit]

You are as good a judge of player as you are of manager Blue

[bluepooch]

Come on Dancing give me some credit ,Ive been wanting Mcourt in the starting line up all along and I still think Sinnott is our most creative player .I just think Mcourt and Weir are similar players in that they are both defensive midfielders, although Mcourt can get forward with some effect , it just takes away some of our creatitvty when both play together but I'm happy with it if it means we are more solid as a unit .
It looks like Jack could be capable of extracting improvement from the underperforming players judged on last nights performance and that makes me ecstatic.His four pillars looked to be much more in evidence last night .
Its funny how football can change your mood ,I was depressed after Saturday and today I'm skipping everywhere I go.
I would personally not start with Hird and Reed on Saturday but I'm not going to question Jacks judgement anymore

[Devongone]

The result surprised me, but didn't shock. I don't think Rotherham were over-interested were they? It wasn't their best team. They didn't field Kieffer Moore for a start who I wanted us to sign when Forest Green were releasing him (how they must regret that now!).

At least Wiseman partnering Evatt is a contrast - he's apparently yards quicker. We did also manage to score two in a game, which you often need to win, and we only conceded one, which gives you a decent chance of a point/points. If we can translate that to a real game ........

Worrying points - well Tommy, if that selection represents his level of fitness he shouldn't be playing on Saturdays ..... Weir was captain wasn't he, now that might be the making of him with us, or a disaster waiting to happen. McCourt - before he came to us he'd only ever scored once in proper football - so I'm not getting over-excited. I can't get past the thought that the pair of them are both the fourth guy you select in a four-man midfield - makeweights, not make a difference. BUT I'm often wrong. Up front we took the chance to try and make something out of what we've been trying instead of trying something new - only time will tell whether that is a good idea.

Pooch, you are a better judge of a player than a manager on recent form. Fans always reach vastly different conclusions from professional clubs' managers. You do notice some interesting stuff about players, like the rest of us you're far from always right about who should be selected and why ...... but that's one of things for which we never get the proof. Jack's team won 2-1, who is to say that any one of our selections wouldn't have made it five? I'd settle for Jack getting it wrong regularly and winning 2-1. He'd be a good manager then, but we could never tell how much better he might have been had he gone with our optimum selections ......

Long term we are going to need a keeper, however Tommy goes on ? Agree? Every week Tom McHale of Truro City earns raves. Other clubs keep an eye on him. I'd be tempted to dangle a wage packet. (I'll list my other non-league suggestions at a later date!)

[spireitematt]

The result surprised me, but didn't shock. I don't think Rotherham were over-interested were they? It wasn't their best team. They didn't field Kieffer Moore for a start who I wanted us to sign when Forest Green were releasing him (how they must regret that now!).

At least Wiseman partnering Evatt is a contrast - he's apparently yards quicker. We did also manage to score two in a game, which you often need to win, and we only conceded one, which gives you a decent chance of a point/points. If we can translate that to a real game ........

Worrying points - well Tommy, if that selection represents his level of fitness he shouldn't be playing on Saturdays ..... Weir was captain wasn't he, now that might be the making of him with us, or a disaster waiting to happen. McCourt - before he came to us he'd only ever scored once in proper football - so I'm not getting over-excited. I can't get past the thought that the pair of them are both the fourth guy you select in a four-man midfield - makeweights, not make a difference. BUT I'm often wrong. Up front we took the chance to try and make something out of what we've been trying instead of trying something new - only time will tell whether that is a good idea.

Pooch, you are a better judge of a player than a manager on recent form. Fans always reach vastly different conclusions from professional clubs' managers. You do notice some interesting stuff about players, like the rest of us you're far from always right about who should be selected and why ...... but that's one of things for which we never get the proof. Jack's team won 2-1, who is to say that any one of our selections wouldn't have made it five? I'd settle for Jack getting it wrong regularly and winning 2-1. He'd be a good manager then, but we could never tell how much better he might have been had he gone with our optimum selections ......

Long term we are going to need a keeper, however Tommy goes on ? Agree? Every week Tom McHale of Truro City earns raves. Other clubs keep an eye on him. I'd be tempted to dangle a wage packet. (I'll list my other non-league suggestions at a later date!)

Devon a Rotherham fan was pretty annoyed they lost because did say that was a strong Rotherham side.