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The questions he was being asked were ludicrously moronic.
Going by that audience the English are big fans of being paid less than the minimum wage and nuclear annihilation.
I listened to both leaders and I vastly prefer corbyns vision going forward. At least he xxxx has one that's a bit deeper than fox hunting and teaching johnny foreigner what for.
Good luck to him,he's fought a great,positive campaign and opened up the political debate in the face of smears,lies and downright treachery at times. Whatever the result he can hold his head high.
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03-06-2017, 21:40
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http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/general-el...spartandhp
Moving into the last seven days of the GE campaigns and this is the sort of stuff that I've been expecting from the toerags and there will be more from their ever cooperative right-wing press to oblige. However, there is a lotta 'ammunition' that the Labour Party can fire back 'in kind' at these toerags and it looks like that could well be what Corbyn has planned. A case of - you wanna fight 'dirty' then we'll take you on in the same way but it's still unimpressive from any impartial voter's perspective and also a 'poor message' sent out to watching youngsters!
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03-06-2017, 22:17
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From what I have seen from Diane Abbot, she seems a weak politician and almost a disaster waiting to happen whenever she speaks, but I can't say I have read anything that could be considered racist towards her or sexist towards May!! Correct me if I am wrong but this is playing the race card where no racism seems to exist!!
I read today that there is one poll out that now puts Labour ahead in the polls. Its getting closer, and depending on how the vote falls within the constituencies it certainly looks like May might be struggling to get her big majority and unequivocal mandate with regards to Brexit. Can't say I am really bothered who wins, I see good and bad in both parties and their policies, but I really don't want to see the Tories get any sort of landslide win, the result needs to be close either way to keep the winners honest in the coming years!!
On the subject of Corbyn and the nuclear weapon questions, I didn't think they were particualrly moronic questions, very hypothetical yes, but not moronic. I also thought after a bit of pushing he was fairly clear, he doesn't like nukes and would not push the button whether we are attacked first or not. I can also understand why this would concern people, if we were to be attacked first, would we want a PM who would not fight back?? Its great to say you would do everything to stop it getting to that, and yes we would be in trouble if it were to get that bad, but I would want us to put up some sort of fight and at the very least defend ourselves. But I agree with him, I wouldn't want our PM to be the one who strikes first, retaliate if we are struck, but our leader has to be able to show enough restraint to not pres the button first.
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I don't know where the idea that the English are big fans of nuclear annihilation comes from, but it certainly wasn't from that programme. All that happened was that 3 people wanted him to confirm that he would press the nuclear button if the UK suffered a nuclear strike from another country, or he wouldn't. Yes or no. It's not difficult to comprehend. But he went on and on about not advocating first use and wanting to have dialogue with any potential enemy to avert a crisis. We all know that, Jeremy! He refused to answer the question and, sadly, that is why many voters will shy away from voting Labour.
I might have missed something in the tedium of the election programmes, but I can't recall any of our politicians arguing the case for first use. Personally I would have lots of dialogue and not press the button first, but if another country did attack us with nuclear missiles, I'd be pressing that button. "Wha daur meddle wi' me" comes to mind. That doesn't make me a warmonger or wanting to have millions of people wiped off the face of the earth. That makes me a force to be wary of by a rogue nation.
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Still early in the reporting of the incident but it looks like we have another terrorist attack in Britain. The politicians will come out with the usual statements, as expected but will any of them lay out their plans to deal with the terrorism threats we currently face?? Of course there won't be one answer or solution to this but I would like to hear from the various parties what they would do if in power.
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04-06-2017, 10:43
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(03-06-2017, 22:17)St Charles Owl Wrote: From what I have seen from Diane Abbot, she seems a weak politician and almost a disaster waiting to happen whenever she speaks, but I can't say I have read anything that could be considered racist towards her or sexist towards May!! Correct me if I am wrong but this is playing the race card where no racism seems to exist!!
I read today that there is one poll out that now puts Labour ahead in the polls. Its getting closer, and depending on how the vote falls within the constituencies it certainly looks like May might be struggling to get her big majority and unequivocal mandate with regards to Brexit. Can't say I am really bothered who wins, I see good and bad in both parties and their policies, but I really don't want to see the Tories get any sort of landslide win, the result needs to be close either way to keep the winners honest in the coming years!!
On the subject of Corbyn and the nuclear weapon questions, I didn't think they were particualrly moronic questions, very hypothetical yes, but not moronic. I also thought after a bit of pushing he was fairly clear, he doesn't like nukes and would not push the button whether we are attacked first or not. I can also understand why this would concern people, if we were to be attacked first, would we want a PM who would not fight back?? Its great to say you would do everything to stop it getting to that, and yes we would be in trouble if it were to get that bad, but I would want us to put up some sort of fight and at the very least defend ourselves. But I agree with him, I wouldn't want our PM to be the one who strikes first, retaliate if we are struck, but our leader has to be able to show enough restraint to not pres the button first.
Anyone who thinks a uk prime minister is going to be making that call is a moron. He wasn't being questioned it was just rant rant rant. Going on about him not condemning the deaths of innocents while condemning him for not ordering the deaths of millions in a nuclear attack. Moronically contradictory.
Nukes really keeping us safe. Its all a lie to keep that piece of shit trident.
And the likes of dianne Abbott would be nowhere near the shadow cabinet if corbyns party hadn't betrayed him twice and he'd had to rebuild.
Incidentally the tory cabinet is crammed with weak politicians like bojo,Dumbo Davies and that clown Fallon who got humiliated on c4 last week.
The calibre of politician in the UK is poor currently,corbyn has smartly made labours campaign 100% about policy.
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04-06-2017, 12:06
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Good comments Jim and there is a sold contrary view to the same kinda suggestions that I've listened to and read down the the years and they never change but hey ho the world is changing and the traditional views re eg trident are gradually changing!!! They certainly have significantly changed in Scotland by a country mile - not a minority opinion btw! As for Diane Abbott's position, another Labour politician who has ensured her kids are privately educated (don't wanna subject them to education with the rest of our kids eh - less opportunities for the few Diane eh!!) - Cotbyn can indeed replace her if he deems it fit to do so and he'll do it pronto!
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04-06-2017, 12:51
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Just one of those things go off and the whole world is fucked. We would be heading back to the dark ages.
(04-06-2017, 02:16)St Charles Owl Wrote: Still early in the reporting of the incident but it looks like we have another terrorist attack in Britain. The politicians will come out with the usual statements, as expected but will any of them lay out their plans to deal with the terrorism threats we currently face?? Of course there won't be one answer or solution to this but I would like to hear from the various parties what they would do if in power.
Labours position is clear. Change our foreign policy,more police,more ties with communities etcc
The tories want to cut down extremism,but its they who have allowed the conditions for it to flourish.
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04-06-2017, 14:48
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Spot on 'on that score' SCO and I notice May politicising the latest London atrocities today by endorsing an even stricter Police state than we currently have plus challenging Corbyn and Diane Abbott on their anti terrorist credentials!!!?? What a shameless f###### crone of a toerag she actually is and I hope a lot more British voters see through the disguise and their sneaky techniques being used on the media to try and influence voters! For example, there are a number of toerag infiltrators of bbc QT who have been 'rumbled'! One ersehole who challenged Corbyn professing that zero hours contracts were great and was later exposed as a toerag with photos of the c### drinking champagne in top hat and pinstripe suit. There was also a classic exposure in 'social media' of nine different hecklers of Corbyn's view re a nuclear deterrent and terrorism and the 'common factor' was their age and clear intransigence on the issues - all 'oldies' and all of them 'favoured' by the bbc in a public debate to quiz Corbyn who actually handled their 'shit' very well anyway!!
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May really is an odious bastard of a woman.
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