[Salopbaggie]

Yes I think it is, Salopbaggie.
I admire MLK and all he stood for too, but the point I am making is that the BBC, or any other organisation in the UK for that matter, would NEVER be thinking of holding a "White Only" anything!

Sorry Drewks, I don't quite follow, how is a celebration of one of the most iconic speeches ever made by anyone, of any colour, a "black only" thing? Its only a black only thing, if it is made one.

[drewks]

The BBC are doing a Black Music event to celebrate this speech, as you say.
The point I'm (clumsily) making is that they would NEVER do a White Music event to celebrate anything done by a white person. How about Churchill's famous speech? No chance!!

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

It's not even four months since VE Day, and the most cursory glance over the Radio 2 schedule that day will show you something that is, for all intents and purposes, a "white music" event: Tommy Dorsey, Flanagan & Allen, Glenn Miller, Joe Loss, the Andrews Sisters, Benny Goodman, Vera Lynn, Johnny Mercer, George Formby, Edith Piaf, etc. And that's perfectly natural, because they were the popular artists of the time. For I Have A Dream Day, they seem to be focusing on music that was influential on the civil rights movement in the US, and that was influenced in turn by the movement: gospel songs, Motown, soul, etc. And again, that's pretty natural. I'd hope they'd also give a bit of airtime to some of the white folkies whose songs were popular in civil rights circles - Dylan the obvious one, Phil Ochs, Tom Paxton, Joan Baez, etc - but in all honesty, it's not something I'll be losing sleep over one way or another.

[talkSAFT]

Great point, Ska'd.
As for "losing sleep", though, I almost did a couple of nights ago! (after reading about The Proms).
Most people are getting sick to death of the wokes, who are doing their slimey thought-policing via the social media, to the extent that people are frightened of opening their mouths/laptops.
The whole point of maintaining a BBC is surely to be impartial, and entertain the British Public. Some people like Soap Operas; some like Comedies; some Sport, etc etc, and some (probably older people) like a bit of Patriotism (although - like me - they haven't listened too closely to the words of RB and LoH&G. They do like the patriotism, though). But now the wokes have threatened the Media (so that every cowardly 'Celebrity' is watching their very words, for fear of being 'cancelled'.) It's worse than China (because it's being done anonymously................. probably by students.)
We need the BBC to stand up against the wokes - not encourage them!

[Ska'dForLife-WBA]

I agree. I have no time for people being censorious, unforgiving of honest mistakes or wildly uncharitable in interpreting other people's words and intentions. But I'm also keenly aware that particular sword cuts in more than one direction, and that those who appoint themselves the vanguard of anti-wokeness have no shortage of thou-shalt-notters among their own ranks who'd swap one rigid moral code for another in a heartbeat. Which is why it's vital to judge things on a case by case basis, and not be led by hysteria.

[drewks]

I understand all that has been said and am actually in agreement!
I'm sure that it was called a 'Black Music Event' on Radio 2, Salop, not you saying it.
That's what I still think is wrong.

Anyway, let's put this one to bed now!

[silverbaggie]

I have recently read a book entitled BBC Brainwashing Britain.

It is a real eye opener.

How the deliberate use of certain words can put a slant on a news item.
An example would be when people on the left did certain things like pulling down or vandalising statues it was just their way of expressing outrage at what has gone before and therefore permissible. Police in attendance but not intervening.

On the other hand

A demonstration by those who may have a different point of view will find that those attending will be described as 'the hard right' or 'extremists, xxxx's  or white supremacists. Police authorised to make arrests.

I fear for the way this Country is going.
I do not glory in Britain's Colonial history or some of the things that were done.
However I do not see why the present generation should apologise or hang our heads in shame for those misdemeanours.
Great Britain with the help of our American cousins saved the heritage of many a European Country and we should be proud of what our forebears achieved and in many cases the sacrifices they made.

To those who glory in denigrating this Country I say if you don't like it, go live somewhere else.

[BaggieSteve]

I have recently read a book entitled BBC Brainwashing Britain.

It is a real eye opener.

How the deliberate use of certain words can put a slant on a news item.
An example would be when people on the left did certain things like pulling down or vandalising statues it was just their way of expressing outrage at what has gone before and therefore permissible. Police in attendance but not intervening.

On the other hand

A demonstration by those who may have a different point of view will find that those attending will be described as 'the hard right' or 'extremists, xxxx's  or white supremacists. Police authorised to make arrests.

I fear for the way this Country is going.
I do not glory in Britain's Colonial history or some of the things that were done.
However I do not see why the present generation should apologise or hang our heads in shame for those misdemeanours.
Great Britain with the help of our American cousins saved the heritage of many a European Country and we should be proud of what our forebears achieved and in many cases the sacrifices they made.

To those who glory in denigrating this Country I say if you don't like it, go live somewhere else.

Silverbaggie, I agree with you that the present generation should not apologise or hang its head in shame for the misdemeanours carried out by those who came before them. Considering what I wrote before, it may seem strange that I disagree with those who believe we should pay reparations to those countries where we have behaved less than appropriately; that time has gone and I don’t feel I, or my generation, can be held responsible. However, I do believe we need to recognise the ongoing damage that has been caused by such actions and do what we can now to improve the situation for those still affected.

Can I also apologise if my original post stirred up a bit of a hornets nest but also to say that, from my point of view, we have shared our opinions - and disagreements- in a most civil manner. But we are Baggies, what else would you expect!