[Dancingwilldoit]

Surely its time now. Take Gerrard, your lad, McKay, Weir and Weston with you.
Completely lost the plot or suffering from advanced stages of Dementure. Reckons he played the same team as the one that won last week ??? Where were Maguire, Mandeville and Denton? Think he forgot to keep a copy of the team sheet that won and just took a flier.
He hasn't played the same team 2 games in a row.
How about Pemberton for a replacement if he would come back? Doing ok at Kidderminster with one of our youngsters starting regularly. At least he knows the names of our own young players.

[spireitematt]

Can't afford to get rid of him and if he did resign then who would come in and take over? Would most managers be interested? Because if I was a manager and I saw that a club had several managers in a short space of time then alarm bells would be ringing.

[Dancingwilldoit]

Given the chance Matt some managers would come for nothing if it gave them a chance to prove themselves. Anyway if Sheridan walks it would cost nothing. The problem within the club is that there is nobody who has any idea who or what would make a good manager as has been proven repeatedly over the last 5 years.
Whats the chance of getting it right if Sheridan does walk, as he should?

[spireitematt]

Given the chance Matt some managers would come for nothing if it gave them a chance to prove themselves. Anyway if Sheridan walks it would cost nothing. The problem within the club is that there is nobody who has any idea who or what would make a good manager as has been proven repeatedly over the last 5 years.
Whats the chance of getting it right if Sheridan does walk, as he should?

Depends on the type of manager. The chances of getting it right if Sheridan does walk is pretty slim. Got it right with Cook but since then its not been great.

As it stands Sheridan's win percentage is 37.50% since he came back and that's the best win percentage since Cook left. 2nd best win percentage is Dean Saunders with 34.78%.

[Devongone]

This season is what matters Matt and Sheri's win percentage must be 8.5 ……. which reflects the work done close season - ie none! When you don't know what your team was/is from one week to the next, you are losing it. As he'd only signed one of the changes a day or so before, his mental processes are more questionable than Joe Biden's.

The trouble with a new manager is he gets these players and they are going to need a radical re-working to form a team capable covering the large chunks missing in our summer's recruitment. And even our better players like Maguire begin to worry me - he misses half the season through injuries and illness - spends more time marooned on the couch than a Jane Austen character. At centre back or defensive midfield you've got to be there very week. You're supposed to be tough, not sniffling into the duvet!

[Devongone]

Bob's is back to talking about protesting against Dave Allen again. I'm usually up for a protest but I wonder what good could come of it in these circumstances.

We owe Mr Allen loads of money. He'd like to be rid of us, but the club is worth nothing like the amount he is owed. The best we manage is clearing the interest on our debt! To be worth anything like the amount Mr Allen wants back the club and the team in particular need to be completely transformed. How protesting against the status quo will improve anything is difficult to see. Mr Allen could just react by pulling the plug, and it is both his plug and his hole!

Seems to me what we really need is a blueprint for how a sports club in a central position in a town like Chesterfield can transform itself into a profit-making enterprise. Part of that is going to be creating a football team at minimal cost which is capable of regaining its EFL status, but that can only be part of the operation. As we are witnessing across the lower divisions the football model struggles to be anything but loss-making. We need something much more effective than a restaurant and the odd Lionel Ritchie concert and some pretty poor team shop. We need income streamS and sportS not one sport and we need community involvement that stretches beyond showing our face to the community.

Only by making MONEY are we likely to either re-kindle the interest of Mr Allen, or motivate him to sell us. We can't batter down his door and demand he gives us away and rides off into the sunset. Well we can, but we could also piss into the wind, though I wouldn't advise it.

[spireitematt]

Bob's is back to talking about protesting against Dave Allen again. I'm usually up for a protest but I wonder what good could come of it in these circumstances.

We owe Mr Allen loads of money. He'd like to be rid of us, but the club is worth nothing like the amount he is owed. The best we manage is clearing the interest on our debt! To be worth anything like the amount Mr Allen wants back the club and the team in particular need to be completely transformed. How protesting against the status quo will improve anything is difficult to see. Mr Allen could just react by pulling the plug, and it is both his plug and his hole!

Seems to me what we really need is a blueprint for how a sports club in a central position in a town like Chesterfield can transform itself into a profit-making enterprise. Part of that is going to be creating a football team at minimal cost which is capable of regaining its EFL status, but that can only be part of the operation. As we are witnessing across the lower divisions the football model struggles to be anything but loss-making. We need something much more effective than a restaurant and the odd Lionel Ritchie concert and some pretty poor team shop. We need income streamS and sportS not one sport and we need community involvement that stretches beyond showing our face to the community.  

Only by making MONEY are we likely to either re-kindle the interest of Mr Allen, or motivate him to sell us. We can't batter down his door and demand he gives us away and rides off into the sunset. Well we can, but we could also piss into the wind, though I wouldn't advise it.

Lower ticket prices to £10 for adults and £5 for everyone else. Bring in some marketing for events at the stadium, get the players doing a meet and greet in the town centre, give free tickets and shirts to schools. Get concerts in the summer and also rent an outdoor screen on the pitch so you could have an outdoor cinema and have deckchairs on the pitch. You could have beer festivals as well. Split the pitch into 3 ways and have a 6 a side tournament as well. There are so many things you could do to bring in more revenue but you have to speculate to accumulate.

[Dancingwilldoit]

Bob's is back to talking about protesting against Dave Allen again. I'm usually up for a protest but I wonder what good could come of it in these circumstances.

We owe Mr Allen loads of money. He'd like to be rid of us, but the club is worth nothing like the amount he is owed. The best we manage is clearing the interest on our debt! To be worth anything like the amount Mr Allen wants back the club and the team in particular need to be completely transformed. How protesting against the status quo will improve anything is difficult to see. Mr Allen could just react by pulling the plug, and it is both his plug and his hole!

Seems to me what we really need is a blueprint for how a sports club in a central position in a town like Chesterfield can transform itself into a profit-making enterprise. Part of that is going to be creating a football team at minimal cost which is capable of regaining its EFL status, but that can only be part of the operation. As we are witnessing across the lower divisions the football model struggles to be anything but loss-making. We need something much more effective than a restaurant and the odd Lionel Ritchie concert and some pretty poor team shop. We need income streamS and sportS not one sport and we need community involvement that stretches beyond showing our face to the community.  

Only by making MONEY are we likely to either re-kindle the interest of Mr Allen, or motivate him to sell us. We can't batter down his door and demand he gives us away and rides off into the sunset. Well we can, but we could also piss into the wind, though I wouldn't advise it.

Lower ticket prices to £10 for adults and £5 for everyone else. Bring in some marketing for events at the stadium, get the players doing a meet and greet in the town centre, give free tickets and shirts to schools. Get concerts in the summer and also rent an outdoor screen on the pitch so you could have an outdoor cinema and have deckchairs on the pitch. You could have beer festivals as well. Split the pitch into 3 ways and have a 6 a side tournament as well. There are so many things you could do to bring in more revenue but you have to speculate to accumulate.

How about actually playing a competitive game of football?

[spireitematt]

Bob's is back to talking about protesting against Dave Allen again. I'm usually up for a protest but I wonder what good could come of it in these circumstances.

We owe Mr Allen loads of money. He'd like to be rid of us, but the club is worth nothing like the amount he is owed. The best we manage is clearing the interest on our debt! To be worth anything like the amount Mr Allen wants back the club and the team in particular need to be completely transformed. How protesting against the status quo will improve anything is difficult to see. Mr Allen could just react by pulling the plug, and it is both his plug and his hole!

Seems to me what we really need is a blueprint for how a sports club in a central position in a town like Chesterfield can transform itself into a profit-making enterprise. Part of that is going to be creating a football team at minimal cost which is capable of regaining its EFL status, but that can only be part of the operation. As we are witnessing across the lower divisions the football model struggles to be anything but loss-making. We need something much more effective than a restaurant and the odd Lionel Ritchie concert and some pretty poor team shop. We need income streamS and sportS not one sport and we need community involvement that stretches beyond showing our face to the community.  

Only by making MONEY are we likely to either re-kindle the interest of Mr Allen, or motivate him to sell us. We can't batter down his door and demand he gives us away and rides off into the sunset. Well we can, but we could also piss into the wind, though I wouldn't advise it.

Lower ticket prices to £10 for adults and £5 for everyone else. Bring in some marketing for events at the stadium, get the players doing a meet and greet in the town centre, give free tickets and shirts to schools. Get concerts in the summer and also rent an outdoor screen on the pitch so you could have an outdoor cinema and have deckchairs on the pitch. You could have beer festivals as well. Split the pitch into 3 ways and have a 6 a side tournament as well. There are so many things you could do to bring in more revenue but you have to speculate to accumulate.

How about actually playing a competitive game of football?

Yep that too haha. The thing is Dancing the stadium is state of the art and probably one of the best in this division and there is a lot of possible revenue streams which could bring in money to the club as well as football. A lot of stadiums and arenas are used for other purposes other than sport. More revenue = bigger budget for players.

[Devongone]

Matt is quite right that there should be opportunities to create revenue if Chesterfield were creative. Like churches, football grounds guarantee their unprofitability by sitting around empty waiting for a sabbath. Whilst Chesterfield fans are absolutely right to be dissatisfied, even seething with anger, giving vent to that in protests is going to make an extraordinarily dysfunctional club look even worse and if we want DA to sell us, who is going to invest in a club of limitless dysfunctionality, sliding down the football pyramid at a hugely inflated price? And if there were such a wealthy idiot available, why would dissatisfied fans want him, or her, to take over?

The irony of our situation is that by consistently getting worse we are watching our own chances of rescue shrink to nothing. By protesting we are only succeeding in advertising our unsaleability. When me winning Euromillions tonight is our best hope, we are in trouble, especially as I'm not sure what I did with my ticket.

Maybe instead of protesting and carrying coffins through the street it is time for fans to ask to meet Mr Allen, Carson, and Bean to discuss ways in which we can come together to bring the club into the 21st century with its thinking? At the moment Mr Allen is playing the Industrial Revolution Mill Owner and the fans are looking forward to being massacred at Peterloo (well 4-0 at Sutton you might as well be a bloodied mess on Holywell Crossing).