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Well a 4-0 loss to Everton this afternoon and dare I say they`ll be the sack OGS , spend 500M, lets all laugh at Man Ure brigade out in heavy force

Sure under Mourinho we would have been lucky to get tenth and certainly wouldn't have had the feelgood factor and the results we have had under OGS until recently

Like Zidane and Guadiola, OGS cut his teeth with the reserve and younger squads before in two spells having success with Molde who I guess are the Tottenham or Everton of Norway
Definitely not the clueless manager who took Cardiff City down, I remember much of which and it`s the usual "If you dont have someone who scores you dont win" rather than a team who were all over the place

To come in at crisis point of a seemingly squad in factional tatters and form cohesion so quickly was superb but it couldn't last forever, lets focus on OGS having a pre-season and a transfer window so we can actually see if there is an improvement before daggers are thrown

For me none of the current want-away people are bigger than the club, I do blame the club itself for rewarding a `been there done that` 400K a week star unsettling other players who want the same money
I`d happily offload anyone who dosent want to be there
De Gea definitely World class but not without errors in his game and we dont need holding to ransom everytime R.Madrid let in two goals and fancy a new goalie, Is Herrera is the only Defensive mid in Spain? Mata has never been the player he was at Chelski, Pogba is at best third best player in the World and at worst the thirds biggest mardy arse

Might have to do a rebuild thread

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Rebuild is the key word TD. It's interesting that the alarming "change in fortune" suddenly arises soon after OGS is given a fixed contract. Also I think that record-breaking unbeaten run showed what the current players can do when they try for 90 mins but the previous probs have been exposed!! Players who don't "play for the shirt" are not required - one does not pick n choose matches to play seriously and that was very evident yesterday at Goodison Park! During the lead up to one of the Everton goals, there was a clear foul on a Man U player and yet no "red devil" spitting blood at the ref and contesting that shit decision to a pt where I'd pick up a yellow card for ref intimidation!! Unacceptable!! Re De Gea, as previously commented, I'd personally "get rid" as IMO he is not a "dead fit" as a Man U goalie - replace with Schmeichel!! If he is retained, then build a robust defence in front of him!

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The Ferguson way was to have Willie Miller, Bryan Robson et al contest every decision, they like Bruce, Keane, Neville were leaders I`m afraid Ashley Young club Captain is absolutely and utterly nowhere near
Yes despite his veteran status and playing a left winger at right back he still is one of the leagues best crossers, a Man Utd Captain or regular, never

I would honestly get rid of any who dont want to be there and think they are bigger than the club or only staying if they make the be all and end all Champions league
Shouldn't be held to ransom by players and the ridiculous wage paid to Sanchez has unsettled the whole team

De Gea rumors appear every year well if we have to pussyfoot every year let him go, other keepers out there dare I say Romero, Henderson aren't shabby

RB- Dalot hasn't been trusted enough to cement the spot, he`s been OK, would like to hope he will fight for the spot with Fonu-Mensah, Darmian should/must go, gues the obvious choice is Wan Bissaka if Dalot isnt good enough

LB- A fully firing Luke Shaw should be England`s first choice LB, Young `might` be OK has utility or back up, Bothwick-Jackson will he make the grade?

CB- Smalling defends like a Championship player, Bailly has lost something, Jones will never really be MU class, Lindelof needs someone of real class next to him, my pick would be De Ligt of Ajax an absolute no brainer for a while now seems as though Barcelona will get

CM-Matic has the odd good game but old and slow , McTominay is a wait and see, Herrera we shouldnt be held to ransom by hardly been first choice under any manager must be a reason, Fred could be OK , Declan Rice seems the obvious English choice if not Ndidi of Leics

Pogba-Has all the talent in the World but currently massive long way from Platini, Zidane or Djorkaeff , Perreira may make decent back up , if we are looking for a playmaker to replace then Gastón Pereiro of PSV Eindhoven or Sergej Milinković-Savić of Lazio both young and hungry

Lingard has something but not first choice for club or country but does have something

Mata has never done it like he did at Chelsea, let him go

Forwards and wingers
Have great hopes for Chong but needs more than just cameos
Lukaku thrives on service and is the main forward for the no1 rated team in the World, his scoring record at PL level is pretty good also, must mean something?
Rashford and Martial I`d keep both are young, tons of talent but hugely lack consistency
Jadon Sancho would be a superb acquisition, similarly Steven Bergwijn or Hirving Lozano again of PSV wouldn't be bad names

Dont want old wage stealers who have already done it so no to Alderweireld, Perisic, Kroos, Bale etc

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A 1-1 result v Chelsea this afternoon finishes off Man U's chances of attaining the last Champions League quali spot and De Gea's role in losing 2 valuable pts and just confirms my previous criticism of De Gea and to "get rid" asap. Also I can't believe that OGS still started with this "bomb scare" of a goalie who totally changed the course of this match after United's fine 1st half performance v the Blues with another horrendous gaffe to gift the blues an undeserved equaliser!! Indeed, I believe had OGS played Romero from a pt 4 x matches back, United would be in a better position now - a huge mistake!!

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Buying De Jong was a no brainer for Barcelona, any player who plays no10 at Ajax is a very good player
How come that the Amsterdam club already has gone and bought a replacement player for him?
Lessons to be learned?

The Man Utd way will be mess about, sell Pogba, mess about some more with plenty of paper talk and possibly sign no one within the window

Ajax have bought a young international playmaker as De Jong`s replacement for less than 1/4 of the price
Is their scouting so good that they can see potential in players for next years FIRST TEAM that Man Utd`s scouts and such cant?