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Dogs vs Trees the rematch - jjamez - 25-09-2020
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So where do we begin? Only a couple of months ago did the two sides meet, with town coming away with a 3-1 defeat, with hidden attacker karlan grant nabbing a consolation penalty before full time, whilst juninho bacuna got a straight red for a mindless tackle.
Since then town managed to secure survival for this season, whilst the reds managed to squander a good playoff position to fall out on the final day of the season to secure another season for themselves in the second tier of english football.
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The two sides have begun the new season in similar fashion to one and other, with two back to back defeats along with being eliminated from the league cup. The reds began the campaign with a 1-0 defeat away at barnsley in the cup, cauley woodrow bagging the only goal of the game. The season itself started away at queens park rangers where they suffered a 2-0 defeat thanks to goals from australian scotsman lyndon dykes and an injury time goal from illias chair. The second league game saw them host cardiff city, however the result was just the same thanks to two goals from bargain signing of the summer kieffer moore. The poor start coupled with the absolute bottle job at the end of the last season has seen Sabri Lamouchi become immediately under threat, despite only signing a new contract before the end of last season.
So from one free scoring side, to another, town. we started our campaign in the league cup away at rochdales john smiths stadium... and despite it being against a lower league opposition and on home turf, we still managed to come away with a 1-0 defeat and barely any attempts on goal. The league campaign itself started at freshly relegated Norwich city, and in my opinion, whilst we werent awful as such, we were highly defensive, rarely threating if at all the canaries goal, and it took a richard stearman error to gift the visitors the points. Our first away game down at Brentfords new ground was awful, the first half we made it difficult for them, but they still could have had a couple of goals, the second half minus harry toffolo and christopher schindler we managed to capitulate, and yes there was two well taken goals, the second showed how amateurish our defending is/has been and highlighted the same problems that have maligned us for many a year, we simply do not know how to defend.
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So what has changed upon the banks of the trent? Well, in a time where town fans have been told by the club it is difficult to sign players due to covid and teams wont be splashing much cash around, forest have signed 10 new players or is it 11 with more still to come.
so the new tricky trees to be planted by Lamouchi are;
Abdoulaye Diallo- A french Senegalese goalkeeper who joined on a free transfer from turkish side Genclerbirligi Ankara (fit that in a chant). the 28 year old has spent the vast majority of his career in the second tier of french football and will be expected to challenge current number 1 Brice Samba.
Cyrus Christie- The former derby man joined on loan from fulham last week and will be in contention to make his debut for the reds this week. he may have a bit of a honeymoon period with the fans not being in the ground, having played 119 times for their arch rivals. The irish fullback made his name originally at coventry and was once muted as a possible town target to replace jack hunt.
Tyler Blackett- the former man united trainee joined forest on a free transfer from reading not long after the season had finished, capable of playing centre back or left back, he featured for reading in the play off final against town, which seems so long ago now. what has happened to us?
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Scott Mckenna- The most recent of the additions, the giant scot signed from aberdeen this week for a reported 3million fee which could rise to over 7. only last summer did celtic try to sign him for 7 rising to 10, i guess covid has hit some sides hard then? The highly rated scot came through the aberdeen academy and will be available for his debut this friday against town.
Loic mbe Soh- French Cameroonian defender that signed from french giants PSG, highly thought of there, so a bit surprising they let him go, but I suppose with the vast amounts of oil money there, his route into the first team would be massively hindered. Forest are reported to have paid over 4million for him and he is expected to be part of their under 23s to start off.
Jack Colback- spent time on loan at the city ground the other season and became a bit of a fan favourite, has now rejoined the club after his contract with newcastle expired
Fouad Bachirou- another of french/african heritage, the comoros midfielder joined forest from swedish side Malmo for 600k. The midfielder began his career at PSG but failed to make an appearance for the first team and left for another European giant of football, Morton, before moving to Swedish football. Is expected to miss out tomorrow through injury.
Harry Arter- Signed almost out of the blue from bournemouth the other day. spent last season out on loan at fulham managed by brother in law scott parker, fulham had the option to turn the deal into a permanent one, but decided not to upon promotion. Has spent the vast majority of his career in the top two leagues of english football and has also represented Ireland on the international stage.
Luke Freeman- tricky little attacking midfielder on loan from Sheffield United with the view to a permanent transfer. Another that was muted as a possible town signing a few years back before and after he joined bristol city. Nothing ever materialised in that again and he went on to spend a couple of seasons at QPR.
Lyle Taylor- The former charlton striker spent the back end of last season refusing to sign a new contract or to play in the fear of an injury costing him a move to a bigger club. Was linked with moves to the continent but ended up on the banks of the trent.
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Miguel Angel Guerrero- signed on a 2 year deal from Olympiakos who are also owned by forests current owner. Spent time at gijon and leganes prior to moving to greece. Doesnt seem to have been the most prolific but may find the second tier of english football to his liking.
In regards to outgoings, combative midfielder ben watson, goalkeepers luke steele and costel pantilimon were all released upon the expiry of their contracts. Liam bridcutt turned his deal at lincoln permanent, whilst tyler walker joined coventry on an undisclosed deal, but the big money came from matty cash departing to join premier league aston villa.
But dont worry our board have a 3 year maybe 5 year plan, every club wont be signing players for lots of money or signing loads of players... Now does that claim actually live up? well most teams arent actually spending masses of money, with a lot of loans and free transfers being conducted, although frees still cost money in regards to signing on fees and wages. you have forest who have signed 11 players, for over 8million, but have sold matty cash for 12mil+, norwich have spent 8mil on 10 players, but are being subsidised by the parachute payments, jamal lewis' transfer fee and delia smiths new cook book. birmingham and coventry have both welcomed 9 new faces to st andrews, birmingham obviously have the bellingham money burning holes in their pocket, whilst coventry finding 1 and a half million for players but no money for a ground which is odd. the two other promoted sides have both welcomed 7 new faces, as have perenial ffp breakers derby, who have managed to splurge 4 mil on an unknown pole, whilst jordan ibe wont be on a cheap contract, again baffling how they get away with it. meanwhile, sheffield wednesday fresh from their deduction have signed 6. Speaking of 6, 6 clubs have welcomed 5 new faces, town being one of them, with the others being watford, bristol, swansea, stoke and qpr. Qpr having made a hefty profit on eze, watford having made a lot from player sales. amongst the other sides, brentford have spent 6mil, but have sold watkins, cardiff managed to snare moore for 2mil, with preston and bournemouth both yet to make a signing, with bournemouth raking in over 60million for ake and wilson alone.
now would towns approach to the market change if and when the likes of kongolo, hadergjonaj and grant leave the club? maybe, maybe the purse strings will loosen slightly, or maybe it will mysteriously get lost like the billing money via the bank of hoyle.
However, I'm starting to trust our board as much as i do boris right now and to be honest the messages both give appear to be twisted and clouded and quite frankly lies.
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in terms of team news schindler will be missing along with ward, o'brien and edmonds green. there has been rumours that grant could be involved but how true they are I dont know. Sarr and Eiting are both available for selection but it seems like Sarr hasnt had much training yet. For some reason, and take it with a pinch of salt, I have a slight suspicion that we may see hogg drop into centre half with Eiting taking his place in the number 6 role.
As for forest bachirou is expected to miss out through injury whilst joe lolley could be doubtful having been taken off before half time against cardiff. tyler blackett could return after missing the cardiff game whilst lyle taylor will be pushing for a start. New signings Mckenna and arter will be hoping to make their debuts friday night.
ones to watch
Joe Lolley (if fit)- never really got a run of games whilst at town, showed glimpses of potential but also looked like he may only have one trick in his locker and found the premier league a step too far at the time. Since then he has managed to show some fitness and has managed to show his ability on the banks of the trent, injuries still seem to be part and parcel of his game, but his eye for goal cutting in from the right has seen his price tag rise dramatically.
Lewis Grabban- has captained the side the last couple of games and ended last season with 20 league goals. yet to get off the mark and missed what was a sitter by his standards on saturday, but will be sure to pounce should half a chance be provided
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Joe Worrall- young centre half who came through their academy. has started to mature as a player, but still prone to a rash mistake, has been linked with a move away to the premier league but one has not yet materialised for him, will be hard for our 'strikers' to beat him in the air.
Sammy Ameobi- Bambi on ice meets football, not exactly the most talent player out there and can look ungainly whilst on the pitch, but when he gets into full flight he is capable of causing teams problems. think a poor mans collin quaner.
what the manager/coach/puppet/mouth piece has had to say
"Harry Toffolo will be ready. Christopher Schindler won't be available, but he doesn't have an important injury. He will be back soon. We won't have Danny Ward. His injury needs more time. Lewis O'Brien is in the last part of his treatment."
"Carel has completed a week's training with the group. Naby Sarr was in isolation so couldn't prepare well. He has trained for two days with the group. We have to make a decision on him."
"Nottingham Forest were very close to the play-offs last season and were a strong team last year. They haven't started well, but they have important players offensively. We will have to bring our best to face them."
"We always have the feeling that we can win the next game. Every game is demanding and that's why this competition is special. Our aim is to have the best performance in attack and defence to get some points."
"Our focus is to score goals and to control the ball to create chances. We don't have any doubt about the potential of our strikers. We have to feel comfortable in the offensive half and increase the number of chances."
"Carel Eiting is a very technical player and is very good on the ball. He can help the team in a higher position on the pitch or can help us build from deep."
"Fraizer Campbell has worked with us in training for a couple of weeks. He can now complete more minutes for us and is certainly one of our options."
"We are improving the team in defence. One of our targets during this week was to improve the defensive level of the team."
"Every game gives us the option to grow as a team. When you win a game, you makes the supporters happy. We want to give them our best and to make them feel part of the team."
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What Sabri Lamouchi has said
I am more focused on the game against Huddersfield. The transfer window is open so we had this opportunity to sign some players. Yesterday we signed Harry Arter with experience and quality, and the same with younger players. A different style but I am happy to sign these kind of players. I am happy with the new faces, new players, new energy and new quality for the team.
“But I am focused on the game against Huddersfield, because we need to wake up and start our season. We know the season started two weeks ago, so we need to absolutely be at 100 per cent focus on this game. Yes, it is good to sign new players, but the goal is to prepare the team for the next game.”
“We need to find the team spirit and sometimes you have a crucial moment in the season, last season was the same. After the loss against West Brom and the last-minute draw against Leeds, we won against Birmingham easily and the season started. We just need to wake up and to say ‘come on, let’s go’. We need to start the season, we have given a lot of gifts and we cannot accept what we are doing.”
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The curious case of the hef in the nightgown
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The highly revered german centre half left town in 2018 having only managed 2 premier league appearances for the club through injury. Having joined in 2016 the defender endeared himself to the town faithful firstly in his first interview where he said he enjoyed making tough tacklings as well as appearing in videos wearing his dressing gown. FAns also took to him when photos of him wearing sunglasses alongside a giraffe emerged and it seemed like we had found a character that the squad had been lacking. During his time at town he earned a bigger spot in the fans hearts with his backside goal against villa, his brace as a make shift centre forward against rochdale and of course that last minute hefing dream goal against leeds, which lead to a full on scuffle between the two benches.
Town fans were sad to see him leave to forest, but also were accepting as he wasnt getting game time, with town reportedly taking a lower offer from forest to allow them to match his wage demands
When he signed there he started to endear himself to their faithful, saying that the singing before the game turned him on, as well as making their defence that bit stronger. However, with the numerous managers that there has been down at the city ground, he has only managed to make 15 league appearances for the reds, injuries too have played a part, but having been signed by aitor karanka, then playing under martin o'neil before sabri lamouchi, the reds have seen a massive influx of players. its safe to say that he is currently well down the pecking order with joe worrall, tobias Figueiredo, michael dawson and now mckenna and soh and even blackett all ahead of him, its fair to say that he wont be getting many minutes if any for the first team having appeared once for the u23s before the lockdown and will be likely to move on during this window, although he may sit out the final year of his contract. Personally i could see him moving back to dresden, to play alongside former town man chris lowe, although if we hadnt already got stearman and elphick on the books, i'd honestly have been tempted to bring him back for the moral boosts he provides, even if it was a 3rd choice.
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For the final round, the anagrams all have something to do with nottingham, not just nottingham forest. could be anything
1) Clawing by a hour
2) Echoing gull
3) better grind
4) halt loon wall
5) who fires nob odor
6) tycoon stunt
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - theo_luddite - 25-09-2020
Nice one jjamez - burning the midnight oil on this one?
3 = Trent Bridge
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - Lord Snooty - 25-09-2020
Well done, jjamez.
There's an old Cowshed classic I have in mind for tonight. It was written by that old hippy scouser John Lennon and the chorus goes.....
All we are saying
Is give us a goal
I'll follow that with a Smiths classic...…
Please please please
Let me get what I want this time
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - WakeyTerrier - 25-09-2020
I live in hope we will look like a football team that can create chances.
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - Lord Snooty - 25-09-2020
Schindler to miss a home game for the first time in his Town career.
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - theo_luddite - 25-09-2020
2 is Nigel Clough - surprised Snoots isn't all over this like a rash
Now - do I watch on iFollow with Oggy's commentary about 5 minutes behind the action, or on Now TV with the action about 5 minutes behind the live score? Radio L666s have no reason not to put us on their web feed pre-match tonight .... but we're talking Radio L666s here.
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - Lord Snooty - 25-09-2020
Town’s team vs Nottingham Forest
1. Ben Hamer
2. Pipa
3. Harry Toffolo
6. Jonathan Hogg ©
7. Juninho Bacuna
10. Alex Pritchard
12. Richard Stearman
18. Isaac Mbenza
19. Josh Koroma
22. Fraizer Campbell
27. Romoney Crichlow
Substitutes
Joel Pereira; Adama Diakhaby, Carel Eiting, Demeaco Duhaney, Jaden Brown, Matty Daly, Mustapha Olagunju
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - theo_luddite - 25-09-2020
Still nobody that can find the onion bag - and we're just as bad. Lolley's on the bench so I'll leave him in my prediction selection.
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - jjamez - 25-09-2020
Shows what I know ?
RE: Dogs vs Trees the rematch - Lord Snooty - 25-09-2020
Her Ladyship is the anagram solver. Don't know why she hasn't done them yet.
Hold on.
6. Notts County
