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All-Time League Placings - talkSAFT - 27-07-2020
(No consideration is given to points accumulated, games won, or goals scored.)
Based purely on League position since The Football League's.
inauguration (1888) these are the top 50 Clubs.
1 8,475 Liverpool
2 8,413 Arsenal
3 8,318 Everton
4 8,255 Manchester United
5 8,060 Aston Villa
6 7,846 Manchester City
7 7,760 Newcastle United
8 7,662 Tottenham Hotspur
9 7,623 Chelsea
10 7,521 Sunderland
11 7,331 West Bromwich Albion
12 7,075 Blackburn Rovers
13 7,014 Derby County
14 6,986 Wolverhampton Wanderers
15 6,915 Sheffield Wednesday
16 6,895 Middlesbrough
17 6,838 Sheffield United
18 6,835 West Ham United
19 6,825 Bolton Wanderers
20 6,801 Leicester City
21 6,747 Birmingham City
22 6,715 Nottingham Forest
23 6,707 Leeds United
24 6,610 Stoke City
25 6,291 Burnley
26 6,188 Southampton
27 5,857 Preston North End
28 5,523 Fulham
29 5,510 Portsmouth
30 5,481 Huddersfield Town
31 5,380 Charlton Athletic
32 5,207 Blackpool
33 5,176 Coventry City
34 5,104 Norwich City
35 4,905 Queens Park Rangers
36 4,861 Ipswich Town
37 4,779 Crystal Palace
38 4,758 Cardiff City
39 4,594 Bristol City
40 4,506 Hull City
41 4,493 Barnsley
42 4,297 Notts County
43 4,292 Luton Town
44 4,135 Millwall
45 4,117 Watford
46 4,102 Swansea City
47 4,043 Bury
48 4,015 Oldham Athletic
49 3,880 Plymouth Argyle
50 3,842 Grimsby Town
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The League champions are awarded 92 League pts, runners-up 91, etc
and the bottom team in League 2/Div 4 get 1 point.
(Between 1924 and 1950, there were only 88 Clubs in the League,
and so the League champions get 88 League pts.)
Between 1888 (12 Clubs) and 1923 (86 Clubs) there were varying
nos of League members. The Champs get 12 pts (for example) for
winning the 1888-89 season,
When there were 2 Division 3s (North & South), the winners would have
each received 49 pts, whilst the runners-up both got 47.
1951 to present 92 1924 to 1950 88 1922 to 1923 86 1921 66
1920 44 1906 to 1915 40 1899 to 1905 36 1895 to 1898 32
1894 31 1893 28 1892 14 1888 to 1891 12
Name Changes have been taken into account and combined -
(eg Swansea Town and Swansea City )
Can you think of a fairer way to assess all-time accomplishment?
I can award 92 pts in the early years (if you like), which would favour Albion, but that's a Boris Johnson type of trick.
Some might say it's just winning trophies that's important....so would you give 100 for winning the League? 150?
I can imagine Chelsea & Spurs fans ridiculing this League, as they tend to prefer what's happened in recent Years (to suit their claims).
RE: All-Time League Placings - Baggiebob(BBB) - 27-07-2020
Wow, that must have taken some time to do - well done. An excellent way to spend lock-down
RE: All-Time League Placings - talkSAFT - 27-07-2020
(27-07-2020, 13:46)Baggiebob(BBB) Wrote: Wow, that must have taken some time to do - well done. An excellent way to spend lock-down
HaHa
Thanks, Bob. I actually first* did it 10 years ago to settle a dispute with a Dingle at Work, who thought his Team were better than they were, just because of their limited success in the 50s.
(If they finish 1 League ahead of us - 20 places - for the next 17 years they will have caught us!)
* Updated annually. I had alot of time on my hands at Work just then!
Incidentally we're 9th (Dingles 13th, Vile 5th) in F.A.Cup progress with 7pts for the Winners, and 1 for 3rd Round (or equivalent) exit.
RE: All-Time League Placings - Lord Snooty - 27-07-2020
Can't be right. Leeds above Huddersfield? Have you included Leeds City's results in there?
RE: All-Time League Placings - St Charles Owl - 28-07-2020
Any table that puts us ahead of the Blunts is fine with me!!!!
RE: All-Time League Placings - talkSAFT - 28-07-2020
(27-07-2020, 17:45)Lord Snooty Wrote: Can't be right. Leeds above Huddersfield? Have you included Leeds City's results in there?
Leeds City accumulated 105 pts 1906-1915. But United 1920-2020 6707 pts.
Terriers a long way behind, I'm afraid, with 5481.
RE: All-Time League Placings - Lord Snooty - 28-07-2020
(28-07-2020, 10:03)talkSAFT Wrote:(27-07-2020, 17:45)Lord Snooty Wrote: Can't be right. Leeds above Huddersfield? Have you included Leeds City's results in there?
Leeds City accumulated 105 pts 1906-1915. But United 1920-2020 6707 pts.
Terriers a long way behind, I'm afraid, with 5481.
Fair enough. I had a look at their record last night. Their pre war record wasn't as bad as I thought.