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The Great VAR Debate - Amelia Chaffinch - 18-06-2019
Following yesterday's penalty award for France v Nigeria which took 6 minutes from going to review and the penalty being scored, should VAR be used? Is it going into too much detail? Is it spoiling the flow? Isn't being annoyed with the ref part of the enjoyment? Isn't the "you win some, you lose some" part of following football?
RE: The Great VAR Debate - Lord Snooty - 18-06-2019
It's the stupidest idea ever. Get rid.
RE: The Great VAR Debate - St Charles Owl - 18-06-2019
They said the same when it was introduced in tennis and in the US sports, yet now its a normal part of the game and completely accepted. The technology is there, I think it needs to be used but it also needs to evolve. I thought the decision to give the penalty was correct, and for me VAR confirmed that but the goalkeeper moving off the line was about as harsh as you will see, and why was the encroachment by the French players not called?? The key with this is it needs to lead to the right decision, if it does that then it will be accepted and will make the game better and fairer.
RE: The Great VAR Debate - Amelia Chaffinch - 18-06-2019
I don't mind in tennis. It's more cut and dried. And I think having a limited number of reviews helps.
RE: The Great VAR Debate - Lord Snooty - 19-06-2019
Yes, SCO, I was shouting "encroachment" at the telly. If we're using technology at all it has to be for everything.
What really bugs me about it is the offside decisions. You can't call offside because somebody's big toe is offside. It's ridiculous. Whatever happened to being level is onside? And how do we know they've got the correct freeze frame? Move it on a couple of frames and the ball still hasn't left the player's boot but it gives a completely different perspective. Only the blatantly obvious mistakes should be given. Other times play on.
RE: The Great VAR Debate - SHEP_HTAFC - 20-06-2019
I was pro VAR when it first came in.
But now I see a lot of problems with it. It seems that every goal is reviewed, whether it is a clear and obvious error or not.
These penalty re-takes are a big negative for me. If the player misses the goal first time round, it shouldn't matter where the goalie's feet were. It's a miss. Only if they save it should it be reviewed.
And don't get me started on the handballs in the box. The making your body bigger by using arms scenario is becoming insane. If a defender jumps with his back to the ball and his arms are out then fair enough. But when it hits his chest or knee and bounces onto the arm then that is clearly not a pen. They are now being given for almost any scenario where it touches the arm. We are now starting to see lots of defenders running and defending unnaturally by having their arms behind their back. Crazy.
RE: The Great VAR Debate - Lord Snooty - 20-06-2019
They have to go like cricket and tennis and limit teams to 2 appeals per game. It's getting farcical and they're not adding the wasted time on either.
RE: The Great VAR Debate - St Charles Owl - 20-06-2019
The new handball rule is going to be awful next season, and in the PL with the introduction of VAR we are going to see so many pens given by the ball striking the arm. But to be fair, this isn't the fault of VAR, its FIFA messing with things again.
RE: The Great VAR Debate - Lord Snooty - 20-06-2019
Men in suits, making up stuff just to justify their existence. Pointless tinkering!
RE: The Great VAR Debate - Lord Snooty - 08-07-2019
So after they've used the Women's World Cup for experimentation, the Premier League has implemented a few alterations. Mainly regarding handball. They're saying they don't want defenders defending with their hands behind their backs. Which is a correct thing to say. Having your hands behind your back is not a natural position when defending. Look at Steph Houghton defending Sweden's second goal. Instead of attacking the ball, her new instinct is to get her arms out of the way, which just left the Swedish girl all the time in the world to shoot past her into the net.
What the FA are now saying is that if she had attacked the ball and the ball had struck her arm, no penalty. That's from now on. Obviously in the WWC it would've been a pen.
Nice of the women to allow their most prestigious competition to be used as experimentation by FIFA.
Also, the keeper's foot on the line at penalty kicks is not going to be used by VAR, which is what knocked the Scots out. Unlucky Scotland, but you may feel humble in that the most gut wrenching decision in your international careers has helped FIFA with their experiment.
My other gripe, which hasn't yet been addressed is the offside line. There has to be some margin of doubt, like in cricket's lbw decisions.
I mean, how on earth do we know they're looking at the correct frame? Roll it back a few frames and the ball is still on the passing player's foot, but now the attacker's big toe is onside. You can't possibly decide in such minimal time which exact frame is the absolute correct frame to decide what could be the biggest decision in the match, the competition and in Ellen White's case, probably her entire career. She's now known as winner of the Bronze Boot instead of the Golden.