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Let's look after Jack. - bluepooch - 19-11-2017
No I'm not drunk .Just give him what he wants ,anything ,70 virgins or a million cash ,anything.
By all means criticise those at the top but I've said all along,unless you have an infrastructure like Watford , the first team manager is the most important person at the club and if a club gets it right it can be a wonderful journey .I've cited Sheff U and us under Cook as perfect examples of this,took Yooonited years to get the right man and now look at them .I see our situation now as something similar ,we have had 3 misses and now it looks like we may have hit the jackpot . He is clearly building something special here ,we can all see that surely ,it is solely down to him and the only way this momentum will stop is if we lose him so the club needs to do all it can to hang on to him and the only way to ensure that is to give him everything he needs even if it is a potential risk , it'll be worth it in the end .
RE: Let's look after Jack. - Dancingwilldoit - 20-11-2017
Blue, we have won 1 game. Ok there has been a big improvement but will you still say the same if we go out of the football league?
You were all excited over the appointment of Caldwell, lets not go down the same route please.
If in 3 months time we are out of the drop zone and steadily climbing up the table with good performances then we should re-evaluate it but not on the back of 2 draws and a win. We cant afford to take any risks. Its like the Titanic, it takes a while to turn around if JL steers us clear of the big iceberg then great but at least lets see a bit more before going gaga and handing out big contracts we will regret in 6 months time.
By the way, Saturday was a very close game. They hit the bar and had 2 opportunities to score mistiming it both times by a fraction. Anyon pulled off a superb 1 handed save and apart form our goal, we didn't threaten the goal much. I don't remember their keeper making a single save but our build up play was better than it has been.
The point I'm making is give it a bit more time and drink less - its bad for you
RE: Let's look after Jack. - Devongone - 20-11-2017
According to the stats their keeper didn't make a save and Anyon made two. We scored with our only shot on target.
I feel full of praise for Jack because he is getting results I'd have thought impossible with these players. I was and am willing to stick by him even if were to lose touch with the rest of the division by the January window, because the legacy he inherited was so poor.
I wouldn't have done many of the things he's done so far and I certainly wouldn't be selecting the side that defeated Exeter, but I always feel like that about managers. Managers make mistakes like the rest of us and they win all the time with a team on the field few of the fans would think optimum. So what, if they do win; it's only an issue when they do a Caldwell and end up 3 wins to the wind.
The whole trouble with the worship of managers is that it gives fans no basis upon which to handle even a temporary lack of success. They go from a love affair with the manager who has them challenging for promotion to calling for his head the next season when they are just above the relegation zone in October.
In our own case it led us to change from a manager who had already once saved us from relegation once, to a new man who not only wanted to save us, but also create a playing revolution with players wholly unsuited to his dreams. It was a disaster. Wrong man; wrong time. But because so many fans adopt the blind follow-our-leader approach, it takes them ages to see when a genuine wrong direction has been taken. It isn't until they are teetering on the edge of the cliff they wake up and call for their glorious leader to be forced onto his own sword! Stop it!
If Jack Lester saves this club from relegation he will have deserved our undying gratitude. It would be enough to earn my support in his current job for quite a few seasons! BUT if we do go down I'll certainly continue to support him as manager, because he has taken on a huge task in terrible circumstances and shown signs that in more favourable conditions he could really be a winner!
What if we lose 0-4 to Forest Green? Does the bubble burst? Jack might pick the wrong team. Alex Ferguson sold Paul Pogba for a handful of beans and a giant grew at the top of an Italian beanstalk that it cost Man Utd a king's ransom to chop down ...... Managers get it wrong. Stuff happens. They also get it right. I won't trust Jack Lester blindly. I'll criticise what he gets wrong and probably some of what he gets right too. I wanted him in this job and I want him to keep it. But I've got my own brain and my own opinions too and I think he'd expect that!
RE: Let's look after Jack. - bluepooch - 20-11-2017
Believe me boys this is no pie in the sky dream here, its reality .
Jack has got me believing again .I know he can motivate, organise and read the game .There is only one aspect left to prove and that is recruitment and if he is any good at that we have a top football manager on our hands.Ive not been this excited since Paul Cooks early days and you pooh poohed my thoughts then and look how that turned out .Im drooling !
RE: Let's look after Jack. - Dancingwilldoit - 20-11-2017
Like I said before Blue you also thought Gary Caldwell was the messiah.
RE: Let's look after Jack. - Devongone - 20-11-2017
(20-11-2017, 14:57)bluepooch Wrote: Believe me boys this is no pie in the sky dream here, its reality .
Jack has got me believing again .I know he can motivate, organise and read the game .There is only one aspect left to prove and that is recruitment and if he is any good at that we have a top football manager on our hands.Ive not been this excited since Paul Cooks early days and you pooh poohed my thoughts then and look how that turned out .Im drooling !
Dahlin' you thought Gary Caldwell was the new messiah until CO'G stumbled one time too many and Weir collected yet another booking. You'd have written an ode in praise of a back three of Daffy Duck, Scooby Doo and the Incredible Shrinking Man if Gary had selected it.
Before you go in for self-praise over the miraculous conclusion that Paul Cook might be a good manager - who we appointed pretty much by skullduggery by the way - perhaps you could admit to getting us into this mess in the first place by campaigning to get rid (most ungraciously) of one of our all-time heroes, Danny Wilson, in favour of the worst manager in the club's history.
Drooling is not an attractive prospect. Keep calm and go to a wedding on Tuesday night - we need the points.
RE: Let's look after Jack. - bluepooch - 20-11-2017
If you look back at my posts I was simply more tolerant of GC than you boys. I never drooled over him and was never as enthusiastic as i am now or during the early PC era .
RE: Let's look after Jack. - Devongone - 20-11-2017
YOU NEVER DROOLED OVER HIM .................................................... HA HA HA HA HA
WHO WAS IT THEN YOUR SKYE TERRIER?
RE: Let's look after Jack. - spireitematt - 20-11-2017
If this consortium bid is true then I can't see Jack staying. When most consortiums buy a football club they like to bring in there own staff and appoint a new manager themselves.
RE: Let's look after Jack. - Dancingwilldoit - 20-11-2017
I wouldn't worry about that Matt. Lets see, according to our Ashley, Dave Allen wants £15mill and rumour is they have offered 10. Uncle Dave has agreed to lower the price but our Ashley got it a bit wrong, he thought they meant £10k but they actually meant £10.
Theres a lot more millage in this one yet before Jack gets sent back down the road.