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Chris Turner gone - bluepooch - 01-03-2017
I don't very often comment on what happens behind the scenes but it looks like a cost cutting exercise.
Now I know he wasnt very popular and a lot of people blame him for the bad things that have gone off in the past few years but he will always say he oversaw two promotions and two trips to wembley in his 5 years at the club so for that I thank him and wish him well.
RE: Chris Turner gone - Devongone - 01-03-2017
My only worry is what this means in terms of the long-term survival of the club and what it says about Mr Carson's motives.
The position of Director of Football has only existed a few weeks. Like the previous position of Chief Executive its actual value to the club was minimal. If you haven't any other executives, why do you need a chief one; equally if you don't play any football, what's the Director direct?
My opinion of Turner has been regularly stated - he's travelled from over-rated and selfish goalkeeper, to moderate manager, to a behind-the-scenes manoeuverer? I wonder if his recent change of function has allowed past misdeeds to surface. This is very sudden and brutal unless something quite serious has happened.
If we are cost-cutting, why on earth are we still paying Matt Duke? We have next-to-no goalkeepers and a combination of Gordon Banks and Manuel Neuer couldn't fix Thorsten Stuckmann.
I'm glad to see Chris Turner go, feel we will be better without him, and really hope Mr Carson isn't just a man who looks good in a suit.
RE: Chris Turner gone - spireitematt - 01-03-2017
Sounds like there could be more people leaving.
http://chesterfieldpost.co.uk/sport/chest_fc/09_2010/sports_cfc_00001320.html
RE: Chris Turner gone - Devongone - 02-03-2017
(01-03-2017, 21:49)spireitematt Wrote: Sounds like there could be more people leaving.
http://chesterfieldpost.co.uk/sport/chest_fc/09_2010/sports_cfc_00001320.html
That is even more worrying. The man who has no day-to-day official position other than massive-majority-shareholding makes the decision?
Turner walks away saying thank you very much for the aintree iron smiling all the way to The Scaffold. Why? What has that cost? Or what has he done criminally wrong? If you had been given a new job a few weeks ago and now you're told it is being made redundant ........ wouldn't you be across every kind of media berating the club? Are we supposed to believe Mr Turner is now the strong, silent type riding off into the fat sunset like Clint Eastwood?
My conclusion so far is we are being relegated on Mr Allen's say-so. We'll play next season, or not, at his whim! Offers for the club can be as real or as fanciful as you like, I've got trouble believing we are for sale. Some would think we are just pawns in a bigger game, me I think we're prawns in a cocktail (past our sell-by-date waiting for the homeless to scavenge us from a bin).
RE: Chris Turner gone - bluepooch - 02-03-2017
My own opinion is that they created the DOF job purely as a means to an end.It is the job that is made redundant not the person and I believe there is a plan to appoint a new CEO but not a new DoF ,hence the switching of roles for Turner .
RE: Chris Turner gone - spireitematt - 02-03-2017
Did Turner bring in the loanees? Has Caldwell fallen out with him? Or doesn't he want a DOF? Has something gone on behind the scenes?
It just doesn't make any sense to appoint him as DOF from CEO and then get rid after a few weeks.
RE: Chris Turner gone - Devongone - 03-03-2017
I'm not sure of the legality of getting someone to switch jobs then immediately declaring that position redundant. And even if it is legal unless Turner has done well out of it he wouldn't be smiling across his fat chops.
Why does a small club need a Chief Executive? A Director of Football I can see if you gamble on a talented but inexperienced manager but a CEO when we have no money, makes as much sense as a goalkeeping coach when we have no keepers.
RE: Chris Turner gone - bluepooch - 03-03-2017
Dev the CEO is responsible for everything I would assume ,including what to do with the little money we have swilling around.
RE: Chris Turner gone - Devongone - 04-03-2017
So we build management of all the things the club does into a kind of pyramid and the CEO perches swaying at the top?
So what makes us think a pyramid is a good idea?
I'll suggest as CEO Turner was Allen's voice on earth. Once he was removed he became meaningless.
If we are going for a new CEO (at Allen's say-so), whose voice do you think we'll hear, his own or will he become one of Tom Conti's daughter's ventriloquist dummies?
Most management and much administration is unnecessary. 37% of people in this country think the job they do every day is a waste of time (and therefore money). If aliens invaded and culled all CEOs I don't think it would have much effect other than saving a lot of money and making everyone else feel responsible for what they do ......
RE: Chris Turner gone - Dancingwilldoit - 04-03-2017
I wish aliens would land and cart Allen, Carson and Caudwell off to the netherworld. Mind you thinking about it have I have probably died and that's where I am now!!