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About as happy as Adele? - Devongone - 09-10-2016
Looking on our website at Toils in the Treatment Room and taking account of our obvious looming relegation battle I thought blimey where's the up-side? For the moderately good news that we might get O'Neil back and Ched might be fit to play if we decide not to sack him and he's free after his case, we pay with a list of the wounded, the best of which is Tommy is back diving. It doesn't sound as though Mr Wylde is recommending holding your breath until Jones and Angel even near fitness.
When you read how serious Tommy's operation was I still find it difficult not to question the decision to allow him to play at Bradford last year in a nothing-match for which we had another adequate keeper available, but everybody makes mistakes, it is learning from them that is important. Let's make sure he is ready before we play him, however desperate our position.
The good news I suppose is in the young players we have on the verge of coming through. German, Ofoegbu and Maguire at their ages must offer a good chance that at least two of the three will make it properly in the game, above and beyond The Spireites? Then we've got Dimaio and Donohue who are still inexperienced but beginning to nail down places in the first team. Reece Mitchell, if he can overcome the disadvantage of a certain-to-fail Chelsea youth, might make the jump from wanna-be to real life that Gboly achieved after escaping Leeds (& let's hope his loss of form is temporary). Then there's perhapses in Allinson if he can develop behind a fully-fit Tommy and Rai Simons if he can overcome the shape-shifting of changing from boy to a man and gain the confidence in his game instead of running about everywhere to prove he's trying. Experience will also either make or break Morrison won't it? And Daly and Beesley also come into the first team picture with time to improve if we are prepared to finance it.
Whilst it's difficult to remember quite so many injuries and on the face it's hard for me at least NOT to see us as strong candidates for relegation, I can't remember a time when there were so many players at the club genuinely pushing for the first team. Of course you could take the Adele point of view
and conclude that it means the first team is incredibly weak OR you might choose a play from the silver-linings playbook in the hope that this time next year we'll regularly be fielding seven or eight excellent youngsters supported by a few reliable older heads. 
To put our current position in context I remember our sheer amazement when a player like Kevin Davies emerged into first-team action. I can even remember watching Ernie Moss play for our Juniors and thinking, wow proper centre forward, get him in the first team and just a few weeks later we did. But these were rare jewels in over 50 years ........ I can't remember us having several shots at it, can you?
RE: About as happy as Adele? - bluepooch - 09-10-2016
We have a number of improving players and a number of regressive players at the moment ,Dennis is the most progressive player we have at the moment ,although Danny doesnt seem to fancy him as much as me .I thought it was Ariyibi until his remarkable loss of form.
Regressive players are Liddle, Evatt, O Shea and Gardner,the first two are permanent the latter two may be temporary.
Of the youngsters Maguire has been the best but is he the answer to the left back position ,he isnt an attacking full back .
Assuming only Lee ONeill Jones and Angel are the only ones unavailable my team would be 433
Allinson
Mcginn
Anderson
Hird
Maguire
Nolan
Dimaio
Ariyibi
Wilkinson
Evans
Dennis
A young team I know but the established players are letting us down.
That strikeforce would frighten any defence in this division.
RE: About as happy as Adele? - Dancingwilldoit - 09-10-2016
I would love to see Dennis and Evans together but it seems DW doesn't.
Am not too despondent, we still need to tighten up at the back and Ariyibi wants dumping until he shows he wants it. Left midfield is a problem we don't seem to have a shoe in for. Mitchel is far from ready yet and just puts more pressure on the left back. O'Shea is no better and Gardner just seems to have lost the plot completely. Get one of them sorted and Ariyibi on the bench and we may even start a game with 11 players
RE: About as happy as Adele? - spireitematt - 09-10-2016
Dennis and Wilkinson are working well together as a partnership why change that? If certain players want to get back into the team then they should fight for there place. It's a bit like England too many players are picked in the starting XI because of what they did in a game several matches ago or because there a big name. Players need to be picked on form. No one should be guaranteed a starting position.
RE: About as happy as Adele? - bluepooch - 09-10-2016
Matt it would be very hard to leave Ched out but the same goes for Dennis and Wilko .I know which one Danny will leave out .
RE: About as happy as Adele? - Devongone - 10-10-2016
I'm sure leaving out Ariyibi would not help. Very, very few players want to be crap though some, like O'Shea, never realise that spectators are aware when they've taken the day off despite being on the field. I'd play Ariyibi in a reserve game against the weakest full back we can find so he can take someone apart again and get that feeling back.
I've often said the best organised team I ever played for in amateur football came from the very amateurish approach of picking the best eleven players and working out the way to play from there. We ended up with an extra centre back in front of the defence playing the role AC Milan think they developed with Desailly years later ........ So if Maguire's one of the best eleven does our left back have to be an attacker, why couldn't a left midfielder take advantage of the permanent cover and push on a bit more? Why not Donohue in midfield in front of Maguire? Strong left side?
Like Dancing I'd like to see Dennis and Evans in tandem but I agree Danny seems to be agin it.
Gardner can play can't he? But he isn't. He needs to learn it is his fault and no amount of sulking is a substitute for using the ability he definitely possesses. I'd give him recordings to watch ....... of himself being anonymous, then I'd let him watch Scott Hogan playing at Brentford, Lee Gregory at Millwall, and Jamie Vardy at Leicester. He shares having ability and having been stuck at Halifax with all three. They make themselves a nightmare for defenders and get rewarded with goals, he expects ability to take him there like magic and clocks up the very occasional brilliant goal. You could show him Barnsley's Halifax centre half Roberts too .... is he policing Championship forwards by strolling like Beckenbauer, or is he giving 100%? Gardner was as good as the others at Halifax ..... leaving him out only seems to make him more resentful. perhaps he needs the picture painting for him? If he doesn't wake up soon he will have thrown away the lifeline Chesterfield threw him relatively late in his footballing career.
If you have three forwards good enough to play it should be a strength. Danny only seems willing to use early subs in very negative situations where they won't mean a thing ...... if you're 3-0 down unless you've got Stevie Gerrard on his best day, subbing won't save you. But taking Wilkinson off after 60 minutes and putting on Dennis (a different kind of player and sharp too) would be a nightmare for defenders. You can choose your starting men with the opposition in mind - two 6' 4" centre backs, tough but clumsy, then go for Dennis and Evans to rip 'em up and when they've got used to that turn to Wilkinson. I know it sounds amateurish but I'm sure professional teams are sometimes too determinedly professional ....